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chrisrice

28-11-2004, 21:57

is there any free ware linux software. that an idiot can set up and use.
i have like 10 people on mac who are getting fet up with vpc and have turned to linux for the answer.
as for ts3 i wouldn't hold your breath, these people arn't part of a company or orginization. they are a few programers who "in their spare time" are doing this project. it can be very time consuming.

Brain

28-11-2004, 22:06

is there any free ware linux software. that an idiot can set up and use.
Well, yes, there is a Linux version, both server and client. But with the set up, I don't know. I guess that depends on how you define idiot.

I've been yelled at for providing a link to the page in the manual that answers a question that is asked every other day instead of copy/pasting that info into the thread. That kind of idiot probably needs to be spoon-fed, don't expect any actions from his part; so the answer would be no.

However if your definition of "idiot" is a person who is able to type in a series of commands presented to him then yes, even an idiot can set up and use the Linux version of the Teamspeak client and server.

chrisrice

30-11-2004, 01:14

not set up ts for linux but how to install linux on a mac. (not ts linux, but linux the system) then to run ts off of it.

i looked into it and all the ones i could find said making a kernal packet and other stuff that made it seem like you have to be a programer to make a linux enviorment.

Brain

30-11-2004, 07:38

Oh, you mean that. Try http://www.linuxiso.org/ - if a distro isn't listed there it doesn't exist ;)
I know for sure that there is a port of Debian Linux for PowerPC architecture (and probably the kind of Mac you're running). See here -> http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/

However before you do all that you need to keep in mind that the Linux versions of server and client are compiled for i386 architecture. However you might get lucky with a cross assembler, but that is pure speculation on my part, I've only worked with cross assemblers on very low level and very small programs so far (8085 to 8051 cross assembler) as a school project.

chrisrice

01-12-2004, 03:36

i'm all confused

Brain

01-12-2004, 03:45

My basic point is that the Teamspeak client and server were compiled for Intel architecture, however Macs use PowerPC processor which is not an Intel CPU.
Maybe it does understand Intel machine instructions, maybe it doesn't. If it doesn't you need a cross-assembler to translate the Intel machine instructions to PowerPC machine instructions.
A much better and easier way would be using a cross-compiler, however that would require the source code of the program... which you don't have and most likely won't get.

chrisrice

01-12-2004, 04:50

i know it works, using Xdarwin, x11. but i can't seem to figure out how to set it up.

chrisrice

01-12-2004, 04:58

here is also a another solution to mac problem that won't work for me but will work for people with allot of macs and games. (at least it will work until ts3 comes out) ichat has the capability to do mass voice chating. and the sound it pritty good. and requires no server intermeaditor.

jasonvw

02-12-2004, 03:08

As far as i know TS3 will be written in C++ and will be ported for MAC use.

maclover477

04-12-2004, 06:27

R. Ludwig

04-12-2004, 11:03

maclover477: its always a pain to see for which type of total idiot i waste my time...

Brain

04-12-2004, 11:08

i kno u guys r doing it off of spare time then i bet the kids from my school can program this faster than u. I go to Denver School of Science and Technology and seriously, if your programing this then y dont u get it done! im not a geek, but i kno a shit load about macs and i bet that i could get some kids from my school and we could write this program faster than u ever will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then by all means go for it.

blackbm

04-12-2004, 14:10

Well. Many says the Team Speaks use their spare time to program but I think they make so much money they dont have another job than this so they maybe could program faster but also just an thought :)

angelone

06-12-2004, 15:44

it's so funny to read all these mac user posts.

did you even search the forum before asking when the mac version will be finished?

something productive besides all that whining:

as there will be no mac version in the next months/years, did anyone of you try teamspeak with the recent release of virtual pc (6)?

i'm thinking about a win98 guest os.
it takes not that much ram/cpu when running in the background.

i don't have win98 here atm, first have to fetch a copy somewhere.

maybe anyone here can check if it works.

i'm a mac user, too and have the same problems like most of you.
the whole clan is windows only and uses teamspeak.
but whining doesn't help m8s.

[EFA]2ndLt.SemperFi

07-12-2004, 02:51

I use macs, you don't see me whining. My clan works around not having TS. Yeah, I want it but quit bagering the devs. Its annoying.

heavyboots

08-12-2004, 08:27

Has anyone tried Remote Desktop Client? It's free software for the Mac that lets you remote control a PC running Windows XP (like Timbuktu basically).

You'd have to have the PC nearby (or maybe a really long mic cord :)) but it might be easier than controlling the machine with a completely different keyboard and mouse. There's more info on Microsoft's Mac site (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=remotedesktopclient) if anyone wants to try it.

Just a thought!

chrisrice

09-12-2004, 04:47

as there will be no mac version in the next months/years, did anyone of you try teamspeak with the recent release of virtual pc (6)?

Ok to a reply to this if you read earlier that idea came up and i tell you it won't work. virtual pc doesn't run hardware accelerated apps very well(for obvious reasons)

as a said before team speak and virtual pc is pointless. (you can hear them but they can't hear you:its all hashed) i agree it's better than being a death mute. But it tends to make people mad.
virtual pc is pritty much useless. also by the way there is a new version vpc 7.

the best hope for mac users is to install linux on mac. (it is very capable and runs well) you need something like xdarwin or something. i can't seem to figure it out though. IF ANY ONE KNOWS HOW TO SET UP LINUX(system) ON A MAC, PLEASE CONTACT ME.

and for the coment about reading the forum before asking questions, most of the questions you posted have been answered in the past few pages.
and just a note: remember there is an army of nerds out there.

.:RaH:.

14-12-2004, 18:43

ok chrisrice is right here but the IChat does not connect into Teamspeak...! Only other mac users have Ichat and that doesnt really matter if basicly your whole clan is runnin off of windows!! I will serioulsy pay for ts3!! or why doesnt teamspeak get to it, i mean come on its been for ever!!! first they said there will never be a teamspeak for mac, then they said they will work on it, THEN they say that they are working on it, THEN they say that it will be released along with the Linux version!!! COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! i kno u guys r doing it off of spare time then i bet the kids from my school can program this faster than u. I go to Denver School of Science and Technology and seriously, if your programing this then y dont u get it done! im not a geek, but i kno a shit load about macs and i bet that i could get some kids from my school and we could write this program faster than u ever will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BoB]gReaT|oNe
You posted this 4-12-2004 so how close are you and your freinds to finishing? I know you go to a tech school. It's now 12-12-2004 you've had 10 days. I imagine these folks have lives, families, and other projects going and don't have the time to fiddle with learning a new CPU architecture. I for one would be very reluctant to hand over my source code to some yahoo who claimed he could whip one out quickly for a MAC. Seems to me if you go to tech school and are so adamant about getting a MAC port, you would sniff some packets from a PC dissect them and write a MAC version compatible with the disected packets.

Tools to make one yourself: good packet sniffer, compiler, Windows box, knowledge of packets, knowledge of UDP/ TCP protocols.

What more do you need?

To the makers and devs of TS, take your time on the MAC port. I have friends who can't wait for the MAC port to be released, and I can't either, but we would all rather have a stable well developed tool rather than something shodily thrown together and has the stability of Jello.

maclover477

15-12-2004, 18:36

hahaha ya the funny thing is, im half way done with it!!! im able to open it up but im not able to get onto a server yet, gotta figure that out then ill be good!!

chrisrice

16-12-2004, 01:43

i'll be a beta tester.

maclover477

16-12-2004, 18:22

ya dont worry just about there, but i thinkt that ill charge for it... muahahahahh!!!!! or if ur nice to me i give it out for free!!!

lithium89

18-12-2004, 18:10

ill help test it too

schimmel

19-12-2004, 10:09

hahaha ya the funny thing is, im half way done with it!!! im able to open it up but im not able to get onto a server yet, gotta figure that out then ill be good!!

loooooool... good it finally "opens up" :).

My basic point is that the Teamspeak client and server were compiled for Intel architecture, however Macs use PowerPC processor which is not an Intel CPU.

You have compiled the TS client on a linux x86 box. So AFAIK your linux client won't work on ANY ppc architecture. So I just wonder why you don't compile the client on a linux ppc box. The only reason I see, is that TS depends on libs which aren't available on a ppc arch (f.ex. a closed source lib only available for x86) or you're using assembler code. But this doesn't seem to be the case.
So why can't you actually compile a linux ts client for the ppc arch?

Finally I''d like to thank you for your great work. I'm using teamspeak every day. And don't get me wrong, this is not a complaint.

Edit: lol... my bad... I've really been looking for the answer. now i've just seen a hint on the first page of this thread: It's written in delphi (only available for x86). Sorry... my fault. maybe my post points out what the problems are.

Brain

19-12-2004, 14:10

It's written in delphi (only available for x86).
... and the Linux versions of client and server are compiled with Kylix.
Borland's Kylix hype/home page boasts with "cross-platform compatibility", but it reads like suit talk since there are no clear statements WHICH operating systems and hardware architectures are supported. Either that or it is well hidden.

However I guess that for some reason it wasn't possible to produce PowerPC-architecture binaries with Delphi/Kylix, hence the rewrite in C++. I'm pretty sure if it was possible they would've done it, even if it is only to calm down the Maccies who complain all over this forum.

Nemesis

20-12-2004, 16:28

Nice to see a future port under Mac OS X is under way.... Frankly I was quite disappointed at the start of this thread, seeing that a chance like this (opening up TS to the Mac community) was being neglected. I run a clan TS server on a Fedora Core 3 box, and connect to it from a Windows XP machine. My wife, who is a irreducible Mac user, will soon be able to talk to me (sometime I am travelling for long periods of time) without the need to learn Windoze (something she has always been reluctant to, and which I symphatize with). In fact, as it turns out, most successful software usually gets ported to the largest number of platforms as a measure of its success. Better still, would be to see it released under some kind of open-source license, so that no barrier would stand between this technology and its users. But this is of course a decision that lies in the hands of the developers who invented it and who have a legitimate right to cash from it, in order to provide support. Hopefully, they come up with some other brilliant idea that will make them rich, so that they will be eventually forced to give it up as a gift to the community as they move forward to face more challenging and rewarding tasks... ;)

niemir99

23-12-2004, 00:08

Anyone know a way to use this on a mac? Have a friend that is playing WOW with me and would make life a lot better if we could join up on TS!

EDITED by Guldi: Wrong forum => merged !

m&m's

23-12-2004, 01:52

if all goes well ts3 will be out 1st Q of 2005 , it will be coded in C so it will work in win or mac

niemir99

23-12-2004, 02:04

hey m&m's, i lost your ts server ip, had to reinstall, but appreciate the help!

maclover477

27-12-2004, 04:28

yup guesss who finished the TS(MY VERSION) for mac.... ME!!! HA TEAMSPEAK PEOPLE SHOULD HIRE ME THEN I COULD TEACH THEM A THING OR TWO!

blackbm

29-12-2004, 19:29

Prove it man :mad:

King2004

29-12-2004, 21:49

I am a Mac OS X user, but I can still run Teamspeak as I have VirtualPC, however I would still like to see a native Mac OS X app or at least a PPC build for X11.

GausianBlur

31-12-2004, 02:55

Does m&m speak the truth?

GausianBlur

31-12-2004, 02:56

oh hi Brain, still trolling a thread your not wanted on I see.

maclover477

31-12-2004, 04:49

ya the teamspeak dudes need to get it together if i am able to make it already noOOOOOOoOoooobs :p

Brain

02-01-2005, 07:33

oh hi Brain, still trolling a thread your not wanted on I see.
Dispersing information is trolling? Maybe I should just flame people without reason, like you do. Would that make me welcome?

m&m's

02-01-2005, 14:32

Does m&m speak the truth?
from a post i read a while back
10-06-2004, 00:41 #143
R. Ludwig
-= TeamSpeak Developer =-

"the apple version will be released on the same day as the windows/linux/xyz version. also the apple version will include all features the other operating system versions got."

so when we see the downloads for ts3 it will be for all the OS's same time , i assume there still on time for 1ST Q of 2005 , and will allso assume that if there going to be any longer they will post .

maclover477

03-01-2005, 06:16

can the TS guys please respond to this please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIVE US A TIME FRAME WHEN IT WILL COME OUT AT LEAST

schimmel

03-01-2005, 22:01

Actually I don't know any boards where the mods are that tolerant.^^^^^

Really everything has been said on this topic. Besides, the devs don't have to do anything you ask them. And I'm amazed that Brain makes the effort to actually read these meaningless posts.

Edit: I'd suggest to make this a sticky, since not every mac user (like me) is able to dig the valuable information out of this 20 pages long thread, where everytime there's a good answer, the next couple of pages are filled with crap.

perrry

04-01-2005, 02:56

In the past, I've had some success running Linux applications on my mac with the help of X-11 or Fink.

Has anyone been able to get this to work with teamspeak? I'm tired of being out of the loops with world of warcraft.

(no mac flames please)

EDITED by Guldi: Merged this into the MAC thread !

R. Ludwig

04-01-2005, 10:03

Actually I don't know any boards where the mods are that tolerant.^^^^^

actually there are not many mods,to change this is another point on our todo list.

Brain

04-01-2005, 11:07

Poxicator

04-01-2005, 14:18

I finally gave up and bought a PC for games/TS but I'd also be interested in anyone who has managed to get TS working on Mac.

R. Ludwig

04-01-2005, 15:43

I'm not a mod.

yeah to bad :/

guldi

04-01-2005, 16:39

yeah to bad :/
yes, sadly..................

perrry

04-01-2005, 18:04

alangbr

04-01-2005, 21:16

There are a lot of Macs in the world, & many would like the opportunity to use Teamspeak. Emulators aren't practical, they use a lot of processing power & if your running normal Mac applications at the same time, more problems emerge.

sanfransicko

05-01-2005, 18:02

I was wondering what games other Mac users want to use teamspeak with.. here's the ones I noticed:

Would Of Warcraft (me!)
WC Frozen Throne (me!)
Everquest
WW2 Online
Halo2
Unreal Tournament

What else am I missing?

Ghost Recon and Ravenshield. Pretty much any Mac game port that connect via IP to a multiplayer PC server.

chrisrice

06-01-2005, 19:51

did you guys hear the gamespy has raised their prices so much that it has endangered the future of all mac internet games . like way way up ten fold. :mad:

CaptainQuark

09-01-2005, 18:46

Pyrite

13-01-2005, 23:41

With the release of World of Warcraft, there is an even greater need for a Mac OSX version.

Personally I prefer TS, but Ventrilo is already working on theirs and appears it'll be released in the near future. Yet... still no recent news about Teamspeak even working on a Mac OSX version.

I am sorry to say, but if TS doesn't move forward on a Mac OS X version, they just might fade away or will have to find another market besides gamers.

R. Ludwig

14-01-2005, 05:19

Yet... still no recent news about Teamspeak even working on a Mac OSX version.

i am not sure, dont know, maybe ? maybe not ? if you could read, you would know the truth. but hey.... you are not alone...

mrcanada

17-01-2005, 19:44

Mac guys, you really arent doing yourselves justice here. I cant imagine anything that would make a group of guys writing a free app want to go through the work of porting it to your platform less than having a majority of those bitching and whining about OS racism and preferential treatment.

I was using the Mac long ago, playing with the dev kit in 1990. I was also an Amigan and an Authorized Commodore Dealer. So beleive me, I know the pain of loving a platform that just doesnt have the market share: no ports at all, slow ports, and crappy ports that dont even use your native hardware properly.

However, these guys have written Teamspeak, and it rocks. It rocks so much in fact that it's breathed new life into my gaming with the added dimension it brings. It rocks so much that a slew of those with unsupported platforms are exasperated in that they cannot use it.

I'll be clear, I'm no longer a Mac user, or an Amigan, I had to hunch my shoulders and move into the Wintel world for business purposes. I certainly dont have the same pride about the engineering prowess about my Wintel-based hardware as I did about my Amiga 3000T or my Mac LC II. Now I have a pretty nice machine that does everything I want it to, and very very fast, but still the pride just isnt there that you feel with owning an underdog, being part of a "alternative community" of users that know something that the majority of computer users dont seem to quite understand.

If you want a Mac port, first of all, like has been said by the TS team before, first drop the attitude. First of all TS is pretty well completely free for almost anyone (corporate users excluded) so the "growing size of your market" really doesnt mean squat. Second of all, be constructive, and come up with a solution to the problem, and if your solution is "I'll keep bugging them until they do it", you're part of the problem for your platform, not the solution.

Ask yourself: Do you know anyone who is a serious coder for the Mac? Are you yourself? Do you know anyone who knows anyone?

Make a list of these people (yourself included) and get a group of people who are onside with your cause. (No Mac TS version = potential 3000 units sold at $20 per = $60,000 USD = $20K USD for three people).

Make a program that functions a lot LIKE Teamspeak. Then bring it to the Dev team and cut them in 10% on your sales for helping you make it rock-solid TS compatible. And hey, the TS devs may feel that it's YOUR team that deserves the two G4s and just gives em to ya, it doesnt sound like they want to even look at them. Thats better than a kick in the teeth.

Put up a web page. Hit the search engines. Put up some Ebay auctions. Post in clan forum boards. Make some money. Help your fellow Mac users. Solve the problem yourself.

I remember when the PC-Windoze saga drummed on daily with Amigans attacking the PC and the PC users attacking back. It just made the Amiga users look dumb when it came down to what box was doing better at stores. Dont bring shame on your fellow Mac users by treating people with little resepect. Dont make yourself look dumb.

PS: Mac users with level heads, this message was only intended to hit those who DONT seem to understand level heads, kudos to you who have a clear understanding of what it means to be resepectful

Brain

17-01-2005, 21:24

And hey, the TS devs may feel that it's YOUR team that deserves the two G4s and just gives em to ya, it doesnt sound like they want to even look at them.
Actually Ralf Ludwig opened a thread in the German part and asked for ways to make the G4 less noisy because he can't work for longer periods of time with that noise in the background.
If that is any indication I'd say the interests of the Mac users ARE taken seriosuly. Besides it was made clear that TS3 is being rewritten from scratch in C++ and versions for Windoze, Linux and Mac OS are to be released simultaneously.
*Speculation* If the developers are already tinkering with the Macs it might mean that progress on TS3 is very well.

chrisrice

18-01-2005, 06:53

i didn't know they wanted to shut up the g4. www.macmod.com has the mod guide to shut them up. Yes it does take new fans to shut them up, but thats about all. ive done that and its so scilent i can't even tell when its on. :rolleyes: that web site knows macs inside and out. (including the programing) and they have forums. There are some experts that know absolutly everything. And i mean EVERTHING.
so if ts team has questioins about programing. Just ask there. :cool:

just to help out.

R. Ludwig

18-01-2005, 06:56

*closed*

1.) ts3 is in development..
2.) with release of ts3, we release at the same time for all 3 major operating systems (win32, linux, mac)

strikermed

27-01-2005, 22:24

You should make a client for mac users, that way a larger variety of users can use TS, i suggest that it should be included in TS3 in the near future... I have many friends who own macs, and it greatly be appreciated if you would add a client like you did with linux.

what do you all think???? :)

strikermed

27-01-2005, 22:25

who else agrees?

chrisrice

28-01-2005, 00:25

ok for 1 there was already a 22 page post on this subject. 2 they are making one.
here is the topic. http://forum.goteamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=11432
this should explain all you need to know.

falcon

28-01-2005, 00:26

who else agrees?
YES I WANT IT SO BAD ILL EVEN TEST IT FOR YOU GUYS!

EnFission

28-01-2005, 00:42

falcon your post doesn't really help... and you should probably have the community know you better than that...your one and onlu post saying that you want to test the mac version of TS3... remember TS team will only be giving the testing program to people they trust...as far as i'm concerned i'm content with waiting for the final release to come out... besides it would be too much of a bother to have to live with any glitchs that they are looking for in the testing phase so i suggest that you only test if you have a decent understanding about how computers work and how programming works...

Nikon7

28-01-2005, 00:50

There was many other posts about this in the past please read the forums before you post .

strikermed

28-01-2005, 02:40

well so what there was another post, i jsut suggested it again to let them know, that more than 1 person wants it, and why am i gonna go and find another post, and waiste my time, I started it so what, but thank you for ling to other post...and i wanted it, this way people from all os types could join in on one program.

Nikon7

28-01-2005, 06:27

There are many other post as the same request as your's read the forums first before posting and read the rules also since it looks like you need to update your self on them.

Edited by Guldi: completly agree => MERGED with old MAC thread !

Wallace the ruler

07-03-2005, 00:11

hey, is there some way to get TS on a mac, i have a computer but right now its down and i'm using a mac labtop but i do not believe i can get TS for it. So if someone could tell me that owuld be awsome

If there is no way to get it, maybe you guys should make a Mac TS! that is compatible with talking to people using computers of course. just some questions and thoughts!! :D

EDITED: Why not do a search before posting ?
=> MERGED !

Balance

15-03-2005, 13:29

They're working on Mac compatibility as part of TeamSpeak 3.

Developers (if you see this), we do appreciate the effort involved. I am happy to help in any way I can, although I'm more knowledgeable about networking and general MacOS stuff than I am coding.

Your pledge of eventual support is appreciated. Thank you.