TS for the Mac

[Revvin]

I know this has been talked of before but it seems that was quite some time ago, I wonder with the new release on the horizon are there any thoughts on a Mac version? online gamers particularly in iEN's 'Warbirds' and CRS's 'World War II Online' already use Teamspeak but they cannot chat with other Mac users as both these games run on PC and Mac. There's been a real shortage of app's to combine both platforms in one app since Gamespy bought Roger wilco, seems there's a niche there that nobody wants.

[T. Boonstra]

I'm afriad TS won't be available for the Mac. The codecs TS uses aren't available for the Mac and it would also require a complete rewrite of TS for it to run on a Mac.

[Revvin]

Well I'm a PC user so it's not a problem, just wondered what the team's thoughts were thanks for the quick reply. I'm looking forward to the new release :)

[ShawnLavin]

When this next version of Quicktime becomes available, the CELP codec will be part of the default Quicktime suite. This means that one significant barrier to making a Mac Client will go away.

I know that the program is in Delphi and would still require a re-write, but if the TeamSpeak team would publish the protocol I would love to take a crack at a Mac client.

Even better would be a port from source code, but I suspect that asking you to make the protocol available is perrhaps a bit more than you are comfortable with.

[HytestA]

Im confused, :confused:
The TS team are making a Linux version so is it not possible that this can be used to create a version for Macintosh systems?

I dont blame the TS team saying no to a mac version if they mean the old OS8.x/OS9.x but with the new OSX being a Linux derivative whats to stop TS linux client being ported over?

Like Revvin said there is a market for a comms app on the Mac platform, at present i can count the available apps on one hand, erm.. none

With people like Mr Lavin even offering to do the dirty conversion work surely this must be something that could seriously be looked into

HytestA

[R. Ludwig]

let us finish first windows ok ?
after that pinguin

after that we investigate this apple ....

[HytestA]

thanks for the ultra fast reply :)

[T. Boonstra]

Delphi has program which allows you to automaticly port Windows programs into Linux programs without too many changes..

There (as far as i know) isn't a program available that does the same for Macintosh... and the linux files you receive don't seem to work with the mac..

But as Ralf said, we'll look into it ones TS 2.0 been released, who knows ;)

[Solitaire]

... as a complete aside ...

Macintosh OSX is not a Linux derivative.

It is a combination of several older systems, starting with the Mach kernel (a microkernel, fundamentally different from Linux), and based off of the NeXT Operating System and FreeBSD.

These systems would complicate on several levels the porting of several of the components. (most notably the sound functionality, and the keybinding technology, two integral parts to TS I'm told)

... this coming from a systems guy, not a coder by any stretch of the imagination, and it could be completely off (on the coding parts -- not the roots of OSX) ... so take it for what it's worth.

.... and now back to our regularly scheduled bitching ...

(dammit -- you made me sound like a techie)

[Stinkfist]

Originally posted by HytestA
Im confused, :confused:
The TS team are making a Linux version so is it not possible that this can be used to create a version for Macintosh systems?

I dont blame the TS team saying no to a mac version if they mean the old OS8.x/OS9.x but with the new OSX being a Linux derivative whats to stop TS linux client being ported over?

Like Revvin said there is a market for a comms app on the Mac platform, at present i can count the available apps on one hand, erm.. none

With people like Mr Lavin even offering to do the dirty conversion work surely this must be something that could seriously be looked into

HytestA

1) OS-X is based on the mach microkernel and some NeXT Step stuff as well (I believe part of the macrokernel is NeXT). The userland is FreeBS 4.2. FreeBSD is Unix, an OS. Linux is a kernel :). (not a unix kernel though :P). Unix <> linux.

2) Delphi (OO Pascal Compiler), is only available on windows and on Linux (as Kylix).

3) FreeBSD supports something called "Linux Emulation" where it's pretty much the whole install of a base Red Hat 6.0/7.0 (both are in the ports collection) install. Using Linux Emulation it is possible to run nearly all linux apps on FreeBSD.

Now, the only thing missing out of that is a port (if it doesn't already exists, which it may) of the linux emulation code. I would assume most of the hooks are in there to make it work properly on OS X, and with that in mind, TeamSpeak should work on Mac's as well, with some minor tweaking, it may run flawlessly :).

sorry to repeat some things already mentioned, just wanted to respond to this fully.

So basically, if it's available, install Linux Emulation on your OSX machine, and viola! It wurks :D.

I'll look around and see if linux emulation is available on OSX.

[Stinkfist]

looking around, it seems that linux emulation would be possible, but it would have to be LinuxPPC, which in turn means that TeamSpeak would have to be able to run on LinuxPPC, which I don't think there is a kylix compiler out for it.

[ShawnLavin]

The only way on the Mac is to really port the code from Delphi to some language available on the Mac (C/C++/Objective-C/Java).

Lots of work and not likely to happen unless someone outside the current group (with more interest in the Mac than the current group has, for good reason).

I really doubt that the development team is going to part with the source to alow a port by someone outside, especially before they release 2.0. What I was hoping for was perhaps a document which described the protocol which would allow me to reverse engineer.

[Cstar_maxim]

just a quick question, please excuse my ignorance but if it might work using a Linux emulator will it also MAYBE work with a Windows emulator in a MAC using OS-X?

Just asking for interest sake.

[Stinkfist]

Originally posted by Cstar_maxim
just a quick question, please excuse my ignorance but if it might work using a Linux emulator will it also MAYBE work with a Windows emulator in a MAC using OS-X?

Just asking for interest sake.

if wine or a windows emulator exists for MAC, then I would assume yes.

[Stinkfist]

Originally posted by ShawnLavin
The only way on the Mac is to really port the code from Delphi to some language available on the Mac (C/C++/Objective-C/Java).

Lots of work and not likely to happen unless someone outside the current group (with more interest in the Mac than the current group has, for good reason).

I really doubt that the development team is going to part with the source to alow a port by someone outside, especially before they release 2.0. What I was hoping for was perhaps a document which described the protocol which would allow me to reverse engineer.

yes, they could at least document the protocol. How well do you know C/C++? I might have something for you to help on if you're wanting a TeamSpeak type system. We're in need of someone that can do MAC Stuff :). Email me. chancedj******.com, and I'll talk to you more about it. It wouldn't be right to talk about it on the TeamSpeak forums :).

[Slappy[OSX]]

Originally posted by Cstar_maxim
just a quick question, please excuse my ignorance but if it might work using a Linux emulator will it also MAYBE work with a Windows emulator in a MAC using OS-X?

Just asking for interest sake.

I do have Virtual PC 5 installed, and when Ver2 for TM comes out, I'll be sure to test it & report back.

[ScratchMonkey]

Meanwhile, those of you looking for a native port should go lobby Borland to port Kylix to OSX. Be sure to look in their newsgroups for anyone else lobbying for the same thing so you don't argue at cross-purposes or undermine previous effort.

Borland's news server is newsgroups.borland.com. There are a bunch of Kylix newsgroups there. Google Groups (http://groups.google.com/) should be able to search them.

[Slappy[OSX]]

The client seems to run fine, but VPC doesn't recognize the headset/mic yet. (It's a Labtec 712) Think I'll try to update drivers, etc. and see what that gets me.

Any other Mac people, please jump in and let us know if you have a similar configuration that's working or experiencing probs. I'd be really charged if this actually does the trick.

I'm running Win2000Pro on a G4/733. Back when I've got more info.

[Fluffy Lemon]

If Teamspeak could take onto the team who uses the Mac and is capable of Porting it, they could be onto a winner. I can understand the team not willing to release the source code to an outsider. Hold some interviews, and take on a Mac Guy to the team.

As has been said, Gamespy has a niche with the OS9 version of Roger Wilco for the mac. Whats really needed is an OSX version. It could be a real money spinner too. The mac community is in dire need for this product, make it shareware if you want. Charge $5 or $10 and it will pay for its own development, lots of people will pay im sure.

[Daddy]

Teamspeaks needs to come to the Mac. There are thousands of Mac online gamers playing the various team games. My personal favorite (and the one I've been playing for 3 months online) is Return to Castle Wolfenstein. What sucks is my clan uses Roger Wilco and since the beta RW for Mac does not work with the newer versions, I can't communicate in game with them by voice. I could probably get them all to switch to Teamspeak IF there were a Mac client. Get the picture, Teamspeak?!! Not only will you get practically all the Mac online gamers that want voice communications in their games, but as this software is made for Mac, entire clans may switch to your software, meaning you'll get many former RW users as well. Roger Wilco causes problems for some in my clan, so I'm sure they'd be happy to try a different voice comm software.

Netfone is not an option as it requires each person to connect to the IP of all the others, a real pain in the arse, if you ask me (I've read other users say they tried netfone then dropped it).

So please port Teamspeak to the Mac and I'd be glad to get the word out on Mac message boards about the software available for the Mac.

[Rank Xerox]

There exist an windows emulator for OS X and the older system too. It is Connectix's Virtual PC, now in version 5.

It handle all MS OS versions from DOS to XP.:D

I have TS 2 installed and running under W98 Sp. Edit. I can see my buddys on our server, but I can't hear them.:mad:

I can't change the settings to Direct Sound (grey). Can this be the problem?:confused:

[Slappy[OSX]]

It's probably got something to do with the way VPC handles hardware emulation. Are you running a USB device for mic input, like a headset? Odds are you can't get Win98 to recognize the hardware since it's running through your Mac board.

I might still try to install 98 under Jaguar with VPC 5 and see if it works any better than Win2K Pro, but I'm not hopeful.

[N. Werensteijn]

maybe try linux + linux client?

[Viruses]

Though this account will be deleted along with this Thread cause TS has threated to deleted any mac user account if they posted anything about the future for mac ts. TS has failed to make the mac verison of they say they are planning too but even some players are giving up and buy a sperate computer just for this damn program. I also myself beg for this program cause I play with a lot of fellow pc users who use this same program for this game "WWII Online" (www.wwiionline.com). Even my pals in my squad are saying this is getting sad that TS developers have failed to even look at the free computers they got from apple. Now some pc users will disagree with this but many will agree, cause they to have mac users in there clan, squad, or group. I beg that all pc user or mac user who read these forums to tell TS to make TS for mac.

Hope this thread does some good.

remark by ralf:
i dunno what you dream, but we wont delete anything here.
please stop talking bs in our forums! thanks

[DARKVexX]

Yes, This has got to change. Yes i know it a free program so we shouldent bitch. But see thign is mac people dont have this program. Many of us get left in the dark while playing games like WWIIOL. And probly many other games. TS people (people who made ts) need to come to see that mac is growing and becoming a big cumminty.

The fact remaind MAC people sent yall 2 computers and DEV tools people offer to help yet no TS its getting out of hand. I know yall are smart and u can do this lettry to get a cliet out befor april. Or i know that A TON OF PEOPLE in WW11OL will be switching over to a voice come callled vetroly <--- if thats how u spell it Because they coming out with voice come for mac right as we speek there porting it into pather.

You have a limited time frame to keep ur mac users intested and keep some of ur PC people.

Just give me a when.:confused:

[badger77]

Would be great we know.

Walks away for another 3 or 6 months.

WIll be back later :)

[DARKVexX]

:confused: y does it say im a TS user that cant be true im a MAC person

[Brain]

Please, stop the whining. If you have ever migrated code from one programming language to another while at the same time migrating it from one platform to the other you know this takes a buttload of time and effort.
I'm sure the TS developers haven't forgotten about the Mac users, it's probably just a lot of work and only three people or so who work on TS in their spare time.

Yelling and complaining won't make them work harder, i'm pretty sure about that one.

[kimphilby]

they are right. beeing a macintosh user means to be not being in mind of any developer in the gaming community.

Every win-user can say, that the development of a voice over ip-app is marketdriven and that's the reason, why in six year Roger Wilco, battlevoice, ventrilo, teamspeak and others appeared.

But the conclusion, macintosh is no market, therefore no voc-app... is biased. It seems to me, that everybody who talkes "ja ja, those mac guys, we have you in mind" never used an apple computer or even knows that macintosh is the number one operating system for professionals.

I think they don't know, that Steve Jobs was part of Atari and that Mr. Jobs is planning to establish Apple Computers in the gaming market (again) after the successful professional, educational reentry in recent years.

And everybody who loves money should a have a deeper look into the dynamics of the whole computer industry. And the theories of economics say: where a niche is, there is success.

So port or develop a crossplatform voice over ip application. I see chances for you!

[kimphilby]

To the Germans:

Insbesondere für die Deutsche Community, die scheinbar überhaupt keine Ahnung von Apple Computern haben und bestenfalls mit Linux arbeiten, sollten ihre Köpfe und Scheuklappen öffnen.

[xen]

I'm sure they just havent ported it because macs suck :)

[mCn]

Originally posted by kimphilby

(...)or even knows that macintosh is the number one operating system for professionals.
(...)

Yeah I love them web designer girlies!!!

[SatanClaus]

xen: shut up...

ok, once more I'm going to answer such a thread instead of Niels or Ralf... the reason is simple: Life isn't that easy and it seems as if there occured some problems in the private lives of our 2 coders.
So it's not just that there are a couple of bugs in the current version, and not only that TeamSpeak has to be ported from delphi to C... it's also that Ralf is very busy with his work and Niels is busy studying. For sure that they can't just rise the priority of their former freetime-project to a higher level than their work / education. I can understand that decision as it's not clear whether you can live from such a project at all, especially when providing it as free contribution for the gaming community.

Still we're putting nearly all of our freetime into this project, but I guess you can't imagine how hard it is when getting up at 5 am in the morning and working till 4 pm to put another 3 hours of productive work into TeamSpeak. If you don't decide to be very tired on the next day, then all time which is left is normally used for dinner and sleeping.

Another consequence of whining all day long and putting a lot of pressure on Niels and Ralf is that I can imagine that both don't enjoy their project anymore. It gets on your nerves / it's dissatisfying when you recieve a lot more demands than compliments for a free product.

It's for sure that Niels and Ralf want to continue with teamspeak, but you should better think of the way you ask for the things you want... and please... don't be that egoistic.

And no, this is not a post which intends a flood of offers of hackers that want to help porting teamspeak... TeamSpeak still is Niels's and Ralf's baby, so they won't share any source-code with the world as long as they want to keep it under their control. This means that if they don't have the time to code atm: sorry, reallife and future is more important for them than your TeamSpeak-Version.

So the only intention of this post is: please stop putting more and more pressure on us. Please stop organized spamming / posting into all of those mac-threads (we never deleted any accounts, I just closed the threads as they were repeating themselves)... instead you could provide general information for Niels and Ralf like where can they get help when they have problems to make sound-io-applications for mac? or you could organize some people that do all the forum support, e. g. telling all those noobs to read / obey the forum rules, reading the manual, reading the faq and so on... This way I myself am busy with forum-support (thx. to guldi, dummer sack, mCn and especially pwk.linuxfan who are helping with all the stupid requests) while I should write the more userfriendly manual for the upcoming version which is intended to be the last huge bugfix before the final (which is then going to be ported to C)


I hope this gives a small view in our lives and that not all problems can be solved within a few seconds. Remember that TeamSpeak is a freetime project with all the disadvantages that brings as it can't earn your life, so please respect our "other life" and don't destroy all our hopes by putting unbearable pressure on us.
Work with us, not against us

cu
SatanClaus

[SatanClaus]

wow it just took me the time to reboot my computer to linux for another thread to be posted about the same topic...

http://www.teamspeak.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7789

sorry I'm tired and have to get up in 5 hours :p

cu
SatanClaus

[mCn]

SatanClaus you have been writing quite a long and serious post and I think the whole thing is going too far. Nobody should have to explain that one has to go to school or work or has to sleep or eat. Let's face it: usually those who are the the laziest / dumbest raise their voice the loudest. HELL if people are so f*cking smart to talk about "community" and "economy" and "has to" and "Scheuklappen" and "two G4s have been donated" (OMG!!!) why don't they just simply
a) write their own voice-comm app
or
b) grab 2 Mark 50 (= little money) and buy an old x68 as a TS2 client platform?
All that biatchin and "gimme this gimme that" is so goddamn cheap, you would get more boots in your a$$ with that than you could actually stand in real life.
SO: Bottom line: Stop biatchin, get a life and let other people do their job.
Time for some Bob Marley now. Peace.
*g*

[M1Garand]

Here is another bump for TS on macintosh. I understand the dedication by the TS team but I also understand there were a number of Apple programmers who offered to help with the process. I would venture to guess many hands would make for a lighter load. Not sure if it ego's or what but I also understand that Apple donated some equipment back over a year ago.

I personally will not invest in a PC in order to run TS. Think of it this way - what if a PC user had to buy a Mac to run TS I don't think so. I would be willing to pay for the program - again the TS team says no. So I will wait for TS on Macintosh or until WWII online builds their own in game voice comm.

[Dummer Sack]

In closed source projects there is the problem of trust.
You just will not give the source to anyone, because then it will soon be open source.

[badger77]

Yes it seems some are whining but please understand. When the mac community heard that there was some idea to get TS on macs, they went nuts. Everyone was really excited. Most people realsied it would take some time. Unfotunately after a year there is no real update. I understand the real life issues as below and it is a free project after all. I think all the mac users wanted was an update , things like we have started it is difficult we have some working code. could be another 3 - 8 months. We will let you know a little more in about 2 months.
Instead it is stone walled.

I think the post above is your unofficial answer guys. It is a big project, and the guys are busy with real life and other things so interest is waning. I do hope not but I have resigned myself to this fact.



Another consequence of whining all day long and putting a lot of pressure on Niels and Ralf is that I can imagine that both don't enjoy their project anymore. It gets on your nerves / it's dissatisfying when you recieve a lot more demands than compliments for a free product.


All the compliments were there in those first few months . People can't compliment if they dont't understand or know what is going on whether there is code or not, working version or not, anything.
Don't take it the wrong way just trying to dislpay human nature and reasoning for the constant clamour.

[Dummer Sack]

It took ages for TS on linux. But the linux community seemed to be just a tad more patient.
Maybe because they are just used to such things.

It is done when it is done.

[Nutrition]

Originally posted by Dummer Sack

Maybe because they are just used to such things.

It is done when it is done.

I think NOT

[Mick]

<in best southpark immitation>

Respect the Mac community's Author-i-ty!

LoL....

sorry couldn't resist.. but honestly... I only been using TS for a few months and have seen at least 2 dozen silly rants from the mac community now..

OMFG, The TS Dev team (as I understand it) is 2 friggin people! With REAL Life issues, work, school, maybe a wife.... and if a wife hopefully a girlfriend or two as well :D

This project is theirs, and they should be very proud of the project since it's an awsome program. That pride means I'm sure they'd like to keep the project THEIR'S and rightly so... since this is the case, understand they can't just drop everything and learn a system/programming language they've never touched before and immediately produce TS for MaC.

GIve it time, and be respectful and I'm sure they'll get to it when they can do it properly and at a level of quality that they can keep taking pride in their great work guys.

[kalub88]

As a mac user myself, If a company as large as Apple is willing to give you gys 2 G4's I beleive that it says something about Apple. I mean, with all do respect, Teamspeak aint such a large company. They have tryed to help I understand, so why wasnt the help taken? Im not sure if you guys have herd of X11, but you should check it out.

And as for the replies that we 're a bunch of whiners?!? Well you have to have expeirenced the let down of "you cant battle, you dont have Teamspeak" Try having that said to ya a couple times, see who becomes the "whiner"

[Mick]

Originally posted by kalub88
And as for the replies that we 're a bunch of whiners?!? Well you have to have expeirenced the let down of "you cant battle, you dont have Teamspeak" Try having that said to ya a couple times, see who becomes the "whiner"

Well that won't happen.. I have a PC :D


I'm sorry.. that was mean.. but I couldn't resist

[Blava_merc]

Ventrilo does support mac but i would rather use teamspeak in order to use ventrilo you first have to go to console and enable it. its a pain

[x8668k]

Lets see if I remember correctly...

First they say TS will only be for Windows, then they say they will make a Linux version, ok that is done, then after saying there will be no Mac version they decide to say there will be one, but only when Windows version 2.0 is FINAL, and we are not there yet, as I understand it when the Pre Release of 2.0 first came out everything would soon be done and FINAL 2.0 would be out, but due to what SatanClaus said in this thread, real life and so on got in the way, not even the Windows version is on time, we are still in Pre Release.

As I see it, this looks like any game or apps company in the world, they ALL have delays, things may not go as planned.

I want it to my Mac too, but I know that starting threads like these never makes the project go faster.

I thought Mac users were special people, seems like I was right but not in the way I thought.

Impatient users...

I rather see the TS team learn C good and make a buggfree version instead of tossing together a 1 week code that work like crap.

[meterpeter]

Please don't generalize 8[

I am mac user myself and I am patiently looking forward to a Teamspeak MacOS release.

[bravo zulu]

Look, people, I'm jonesing for a Mac version of TS as much as anyone, but *please* think about what these guys are trying to do:

Port a Win32 Delphi application (that's OBJECT PASCAL, kids!) to a different operating system (OS X) on a different hardware platform (PowerPC / OF) using a different language (Objective C and/or C) and a different set of APIs (POSIX *nix rather than Win32).

For free.

This ain't beer and skittles, folks, this is audacious with a capital "aud." About the only thing they can count on taking across the transom is the Speex codec; everything else is going to have to be coded bespoke from the ground up.

So, here's what you can do to help the process along:

1. Learn Delphi and Objective-C, offer to help port the code under an unusually-restrictive NDA.

2. Send money and pizza to the developers (if they take such things).

3. Convince Borland to port Kylix to OS X.

4. Stop complaining that a high-quality, useful, completely free(!) application hasn't been released for the Mac because IF TEHY WERE RAELLY LEET TEHY WULD HAVE PORTED IT BY NOW!!!!!!

At the very least, follow #4.

Please.

You're making the rest of us look bad.

[desavant]

I think we would all feel very differently about this if all other further development froze for this new project, but it hasn't. It gives the appearance that they are unwilling to do any real development. (even pre-project planning and design)

Instead dedicating their time to "more important (read: fun) stuff like new point releases for windows, and porting the whole existing code base to C++. I'm not saying that this development path is wrong, but they don't want to update us in any way. This instead hints to us that they are still at square one, and no plans for the moment to bring things more up to date. Go have a look at the forums for bioware for p.r. ideas. They were the model of putting us off until later.

If they were more on top of things and maybe even excited about it. It would show up in frequent reports, and by asking for (instead of expecting us to provide ala "mind reading") specific help. I know in the past any mention of a problem to the mac community resulted in numerous posts of example code and specific documentation. I myself wipped up the UI for the old TS, in all of two days on a Mac. Stuff like this goes a long way to show people that you really are on top of things. Let alone the hardware requirements that Apple met you with, just like TS2 I might remind you. Provided free of charge. Also that community help, just like TS2 that is free of charge. Your egoistic wounded act is seriously juvenile, for your free of charge product for the game community.

Real world check here folks, just how long are you expecting to hold off development of your "no charge" product in light of all this "no charge" support? I get paid allot for what you are being provided with here by this "whiny, bitchy" community you show such obvoius contempt for. Count the graces you go by carefully, with a little attitude they can dry up over night.

By accepting Apple's donation you put yourself on a "reasonable time table" schedule if you didn't know it. Any real world developer knows this w/o a moment's question. A year was too long, and in another year you might get a call from Apple requesting the development hardware be returned?

ts: "Oh, but we're not done yet."
apple: how far are you?
ts: well we're just now learning about objective-c.
apple: the return boxes are in the mail, but feel free to call the apple store any time with your order.

A little longer (let's say another year and a half) with my other three personal projects wrapping up. I might have some free time to start a competing product? First by REing with a few friends your own protocol for compatibility and Berkely license all of it. I have more than a hand full of friends who're tallented coders, and we don't write in delphi. Linux/BSD/Mac, and I'm sure I can find someone to port it to win32. How about one of the open voip codecs for voice comm? TS obsoleted by oss. How does that thought sit with you?

Get off the pot guys, or make some hard choices. Destiny's at the door, and she's ask'n for you.

[Mick]

Originally posted by desavant
A little longer (let's say another year and a half) with my other three personal projects wrapping up. I might have some free time to start a competing product? First by REing with a few friends your own protocol for compatibility and Berkely license all of it. I have more than a hand full of friends who're tallented coders, and we don't write in delphi. Linux/BSD/Mac, and I'm sure I can find someone to port it to win32. How about one of the open voip codecs for voice comm? TS obsoleted by oss. How does that thought sit with you?

Damn.. and here I was about to make a post about how cool the mac community was represented by the previous 3 posters with their patience, understanding and respect for the TS2 dev team... then you had to stick your ass in here.

And, I love it... that post of course is yet another "Do it or I will... wahhh" posts... so... Friggin DO IT and shut up! In fact... when you do.. just to get back at us... take 2 years to port it to win32.... I'm sure you're gonna have all kinds of people just tearing up your forums bugging you because you haven't ported your MAC only app to win32...

Darn Mac community only Voice comm will be the end of TS!

Whoa... and here you are making a year and a half time table to even get started on your MAC voice comm??? seems like a long time and doesn't really seem fair to the mac community.... Show the TS dev team they are wrong by insisting on keeping their paying jobs, wifes/girlfriends, familys, sanity and personal free time and drop all your personal business and affairs and MAKE YOUR MAC VOICE COM NOW! RESPECT THE MAC COMMUNITY!

And when you do get it done.. don't "Find" somebody to port it to win32... the TS2 dev team I'm sure could have "found" somebody to port TS2 to mac if they wanted to give out their source and lose control over THEIR project, BUT they didn't.

And you shouldn't either! Have some balls and not only make your MAC Voice comm.. BUT... also prove the TS team is just being lazy about porting to MAC and port yours to PC all by yourself..... you've already given up all your personal business and life so you should have plenty of time to learn all the things you'll need to on your own and show them up 'cause it's obvious you are Mr. Fabulous and can do anything!

wee.. well.. that was fun... couldn't resist...

[desavant]

Look ya bloody mick, (couldn't resist) =)

Read what I wrote, and not the words that I used to write it. My point was one about resposibility, and communication. Funny that? What with being on a forum about a voice comm. software app. To reiterate: They seem very unwilling to deal with their public in any way. I thought I staged my argument very clearly? I also advanced some rather shameing reasons why they are demonstrate this behaviour.


Originally posted by Mick


And, I love it... that post of course is yet another "Do it or I will... wahhh" posts... so... Friggin DO IT and shut up! In fact... when you do.. just to get back at us... take 2 years to port it to win32.... I'm sure you're gonna have all kinds of people just tearing up your forums bugging you because you haven't ported your MAC only app to win32...



So you really didn't read any of that did you? You just saw what you thought that someone else already said. Mac only? Go back and this time look for BSD, but that's all the help I offer lusers with their BD/ADHD symptoms.


Originally posted by Mick



Whoa... and here you are making a year and a half time table to even get started on your MAC voice comm??? seems like a long time and doesn't really seem fair to the mac community....





Again read, slow down. Feel the words, year and a half, three project of my free time, a job, school, and a project I'm getting grant money for moron. I'm sure a group of friends over could backward engineer the full protocol and document it in less than a week.


Originally posted by Mick


And when you do get it done.. don't "Find" somebody to port it to win32... the TS2 dev team I'm sure could have "found" somebody to port TS2 to mac if they wanted to give out their source and lose control over THEIR project, BUT they didn't.

And you shouldn't either! Have some balls and not only make your MAC Voice comm.. BUT... also prove the TS team is just being lazy about porting to MAC and port yours to PC all by yourself.....





1.) You're right, I offered to way back in the beginning.

2.) Why would I want to "show anyone up"? "Lazy"? Have you ever ported an existing code base? Wake up...

Most of the stuff I write for personal use is never seen outside of what it's designed to do anyway. The Internet would thank me for it too since most scriptkiddiots know next to nothing about respocibility, or respect for others. As it turns out I may need to write an audio layer like TS for another type of application so it's not such a stretch. As for win32, I don't waste my time. I don't enjoy windows, and I have many other friends who do. If they enjoy it let them work on it. Make sense?


Originally posted by Mick



'cause it's obvious you are Mr. Fabulous and can do anything!





Good we got that clear. Whew, I was under the impression that you thought I was slime.

Demand creates firms willing to enter a given market. Plain old economics. After first learning about TS. I was excited about gaming with it. I don't game much though, but after thinking about all the ways that it could be used for other things it becomes much more thrilling than I first considered.

Now given the choice of waiting or writing my own, and then maybe adding features outside of it's intended audience. The only thing currently holding me back is the other three things I'm currently working on like this.

The moment this is no longer an issue I'll check back in here. If TS is done, then I'll use it. If not I'll call together a few friends and order some pizza. Understand? Going to school isn't only about making more money, it means never needing to wait for someone else to do tomarrow, for what you can start today. Go read the author's back story of the development process for a scanner called "hunt" if you don't get it.

Lastly with people like you saying "shut up and make your own" all the time you sure are awfuly threatened by the idea.

[Brain]

Hmmmm... It's actually a good idea. If anybody complains about the MAC version not progressing you can refer him to desavant.

[Blava_merc]

I think after over a year there will be SOME progress or news. TS team never posted any news about any progress.

[badger77]

Just hang on - don't stress them there may be news soon
I bought a PC so I'm very patient. use it for internet sharing and TS, use the mac for all the other stuff

[water]

Hello, I was just wondering if you have a release date set for the Macintosh version. I know it's in the FAQ's, but it doesn't set a date. Just wondering because I heard it was near completion. I'm sure all mac users appreciate your speediness, because not having a client like this limits our skill in a number of ways.
Thx for your help.

P.S. I'm not trying to bug you, I just wish someone would update us on the news/progress of the mac version. Don't refer me to other threads because I've read them already. Thx again.

[Dummer Sack]

The official statement in the FAQ Forum is still valid.

I doubt it is near completion, because before the Mac port can start, the C/C++ port has to be finished.
And as far as I know that is not the case.

[R. Ludwig]

all future mac posts will be merged to this thread...

have fun!

[Dark uk]

I was just wondering if there was any plans to bring TS out for macintosh?

[Dummer Sack]

Check out the FAQ Forum. There is the official statment about the MAC port.

[Schika]

Wird´s irgendwann eine Teamspeak Client/Server version für MacOS geben?
Die Portierung von UNIX/Linux auf MacOS X dürfte ja nicht so schwer sein. Und eine Mac OS 9 (Classic) version müsste halt nochmal für diese Platform compiliert werden.

Bedarf für dieses Tool besteht auf jeden Fall!!!

[Dummer Sack]

Doch ist schwer, da TS nicht in C/C++ geschrieben wurde sondern in Delphi/Kylix und das ist für den Mac nicht erhältich.
Und selbst bei C/C++ muss das gesamte GUI und Soundsystem von TS angepasst (neu geschrieben) werden.

An einem C/C++ port von TS wird zur Zeit gearbeitet.
Das offizielle statement zum Mac TS gibt es im FAQ Forum.

Und für classic wird TS Mac wohl sicher nicht kommen (denke ich), denn das wäre dann noch mal fast genau so viel arbeit wie der port nach MacOS X.

PS: Wie kommen die Leute eigentlich immer auf die Idee eine Portierung wäre mit einer Neukompilation getan?

[Schika]

Danke für die schnelle Antwort!!!

Sorry bin davon ausgegangen der Code wäre bereits in C/C++ geschrieben.
Die Linux version ist doch nicht etwa auch in Delphi geschrieben ???
Die nötigen Libraries kann ich euch gerne übergeben, da ich eingtragener Apple Developper bin und darauf bei Bedarf zugreifen bzw mir bei Apple downloaden kann.

[Dummer Sack]

Doch auch die Linux version (mit Kylix der Linux version von Delphi).

Zugriff auf die nötigen Libraries hat das TS Team auch (denke ich mal).

Da du Eingetragener Apple Developer bist weist du sicher ja auch das Apple das sound system zwichen MacOS 9 und MacOS X ziemlich geändert hat (zumindest core sound) und das deshlab es schon ein erheblicher portierungsaufwand wäre auch eine MacOS 9 version zu bringen.

Allerdings weiss ich nicht ob das TS Team sich entschliesst eine Cross-Platform Sound Library wie OpenAL einzusetzen.
Damit wäre das portierungs Problem natürlich stark reduziert.

Beim GUI wird schon eine Cross-Platform Library für den C/C++ Port eingestzt.
Ich weiss aber auch nicht ob OpenAL und die GUI Library MacOS 9 unterstützen.
(Naja, mal ehrlich MacOS 9 ist auch schon fast tot, oder? Es zuckt halt noch ein bisschen.)

[Mr_Rockbar]

Moinsen alle zusammen würde mal gerne wissen ob es schon erste erfolge bzw. betas oder so gibt wegen der os x version.
Ober gibt damit immer noch so viele probleme?

Thankx

[Dummer Sack]

Es gibt keine probleme damit da es noch keine beta gibt.
Der C/C++ port ist ja noch nicht mal fertig.
Und vorher wird der Mac port nicht in angriff genommen (denn das wäre sinnlos).

[Peter]

Sorry for the language mixup, but ralf said "all future mac posts" :P

[Dummer Sack]

Ups, sorry for the german.
I just answered in the same language they asked the question and I forgot to check what forum I am in.

EDIT: Ah yes, it was in the german forum before. You should have said you moved them here.
Maybe open a thread in german suggestion an merge the german Mac Posts there?

[pbarrette]

Hi all you English speakers,

A brief translation of the above posts for your information:

Schika: Where's the Mac version? It can't be that hard to port. And you've got to do an OS-9 version too.

Dummer Sack: TS isn't in C++ and there is no Delphi/Kylix for the Mac. It requires a complete rewrite. The C++ port is in progress, as shown in the FAQ. There will likely be no Classic version.

Schika: Thanks. I assumed it was all in C++. The linux version is Delphi too? I'm an "Apple Developer" and can DL the libs from Apple for you.

Dummer Sack: Yes.. It's all in Delphi. I think the TS team has those libraries already. As a developer, you should know that the wole sound core has changed from OS9 to OSX. I don't know if they will choose a cross-platform lib like OpenAL which would reduce the porting problems.

Mr_Rockbar: Is there a beta in progress or are there that many problems? (Editors note: Man.. Grammar people. I can barely understand this one.)

Dummer Sack: There are no problems with the beta since no beta exists. The C++ port is not yet finished. And before the port, the Mac version will not even be considered.

To all the German/English bilingual speakers: Sorry for any mistakes. My German is a bit rusty. I think it's close enough to inform the English speakers out there though.

pb

[Vardamir]

I was gonna suggest a Linux/PPC port but I belive many projects such as this one are hurt because Kylix is only available for the x86 for whatever reason ... though i'm content to wait for the C/C++ version. Great work guys!

[veruca]

send me a link, and i'll pass it on to the WWIIOL community. i hope a few hundred emails from a good sized community would get them to port kylix to OSX.

probably not, but i'd still be fun.

i'm both linux and win user (linux i the main OS) and love TS. good job on the program and when you do release the OSX version, the wwiiol community will be all over it.

we (wwiiol linux users) are wishing for a wwiiol linux port, but i don't for see it happening. so i and a few guys are trying to get wwiiol working properly with winex.

but anyways.

both sides of the player base (allied and axis) have high commands and both have main servers, which are TS based. so you can see why the wwiiol osx user base is chomping at the bit for a port so they can be one of the communicants.

[theprophecy]

hey, ive recently heard from someone i know that there will soon be a form of ts for mac. wow that would be good.
is this true?
theprophecy

SatanClaus: merged into mac-thread

[SatanClaus]

there'll be a meeting of the TS-Team soon... we'll try to start coding ts in c++ right after that. Please stay patient...

cu
SatanClaus

PS: I don't like to tell people that they have to wait as well... we'll do it as fast as we can handle, but it will still take a long time :(

[PilotMike]

Hello all.

Just thought I'd say kudos to the TS team for considering a Mac port! I think that given the recent upswing in Mac gaming you guys would really position yourselves well by releasing a port to OS X (or at least a library or Framework) as soon as practical.

That said...I'm a Mac programmer and also work for Apple. I've worked on teams who succesfully ported other voice technologies to Mac from scratch. I'd be more than happy to help with the port of TS to OS X if it's needed. If not, that's fine...no doubt there's plenty of talent on the team already. ;)

If the team would plan on writing just a library and header file in C that'd be more than sufficient for other Mac programmers like myself to put together an interface in XCode using Obj-C, for example. This would lessen the need for the TS team to learn a whole new framework and help with the timeline.

#pilotmike

[napster14]

Hi, I've seen teamspeak on pc's from my mates, it's really cool and handy in clans, I'm in 3 clan.....a sof2 and a ghost recon clan and a jk2 clan, it's really shitty whenn all pc gamers can give orderes an stuff and i'm just left in the darkness........And linux does gets teamspeak, much MUCH more people use mac os x, please make a port for mac os x, because Netfone isn't a fine program, actually, it sux. Thanx................ Tim

Merged to this thread - pwk.linuxfan

[guldi]

please read the FAQ and do a search as there are more then enough threads on this. There is realy no need to start new one's each day. THX !

[Aleron]

I saw that it is in development. Are we looking at days/weeks/months on its release? Thank you.

[Brain]

What? I've been using the MAC version for like half a year now.

(Average time for new TS MAC threads to pop up: 3 days)

[Aleron]

Wow, my apologies. Then the info was not updated because it says its still in progess. Where do I access the dowload for it? Please be patient with me! And thanks!! I'm running on OSXPanther if that needs to be known btw...

[Mick]

It was a joke... there is no Mac version of TS....

They are working on porting TS2 over to C++ or something and then they'll be able to port to MAC after that... probably looking at many months for it to be done, as from what I gather the TS2 Dev team is dealing with real life issues more than working on TS2 right now.

By him saying "Average time for new mac threads to popup: 3Days" I believe he was inferring that you search the forums for some of the million or so threads about TS for mac...

[Miglo]

I thing it will never be a mac TS client. Why a small team will work for 5 % of FPS gamers?. Must be logical, maybe ventrilo will release one version, but in how many time? Mac is not a playstation, but a workstation. But I want to say Thx to people who work on mac voc prgm.
Cya

[tetsuopink]

I would like to know if the developpement of teamSpeak for MAC continue and when it should be ready

THANKS

[guldi]

http://www.teamspeak.org/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=165511&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

[Asker]

asker syas, when will you guys have TS out for mac? Or do you already have it out. If you do, tell me were it is.

[R. Ludwig]

Originally posted by Miglo
I thing it will never be a mac TS client. Why a small team will work for 5 % of FPS gamers?. Must be logical, maybe ventrilo will release one version, but in how many time? Mac is not a playstation, but a workstation. But I want to say Thx to people who work on mac voc prgm.
Cya

new ts will be more as just a gaming tool.

there will be a mac version with the release of the win32/linux/xyz versions.

but like someone stated here allready, it will still take alot of time...

[janklaaspiet]

Hello,

i'm very disappointed that this program isnt available for mac :mad: . So please make this program for mac also...

thanks

[x8668k]

They are, it will be ready when it is ready, which means, later.

And they will not do it faster then they already are.

There is only one thing you can do, wait.

[janklaaspiet]

glad to hear you guys working on it
thanks for that, hope it will be ready soon...:) :p

[hammer32]

I used this prog a bit on the PC and it's great stuff. I'd be more than happy to assist in testing any potential mac version.

:)

[Asker]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD(AND ALL mAC USERS)< MAKE THE dANG THING FOR MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!(breath)!!!!!!!!!...(cough)!..!!...i m done, just make it work out ok?

[utdrmac]

what language is TS written in? if it can run in linux, it can probably run in mac os X with a small amount of change to the code.

[benj1989]

I have hear rumors ts will be rewitten in c++
Is that true?
If it is true it will be normally for mac also (mac support c++)
So great news if it is true...

[Cyco]

http://www.teamspeak.org

First news item, second paragraph...

[benj1989]

thx, I have also hear about someone have ported ts for mac. more info about that?

[GausianBlur]

I know it was said you dont know when but any idea? like just a wild guess?

Phuuuleezzzeee;) My rat bastard clan mates are gonna leave me behind on RW while they move to team speak.:mad:

Anyway good news to us mac users :)

[Asker]

alrady tryed it, it doesnt work on linx(sp) for mac thing, yeah

[CaptainQuark]

Has anyone tried tweaking the Linux version in MacTools or X11 that comes with OS X?

And on the subject of "a Mac version" are we talking OS 9.2.2 version or OS X? I'm only after the OS X version myself!

[Asker]

OS X please! and could oyu gimmy an estamate? like a month or something?

[Romirez]

im in a clan for halo, an we have a few members who are on mac OS.... is there any kind of mac client/server in the pipeline? (one that is compatible with the windows server/client)

[cwich]

I know aktually you are working on a TS2 Client for MAC OS X.

Unfortunalty, I have no acess to a windows machine, and I dont like installing linux on my laptop :(
So, my question: can you already estimate when you finish a (beta) version for the Teamspeak client for MAC OS X?

btw: yes I read the faq :)

Thanx in advance

[cwich]

Actually I know that they are working on a client for mac os x, i think it would not make any sense if these would not be compatible with the others...

But i dunno yet when they'll finish it...I've asked for it in another thread.

[guldi]

Do not ask us when TeamSpeak 3 will be ready, we still have lots of work to do for it - it will be done when it's done. One thing that TeamSpeak 3 will be, is a complete rewrite in C++ - yes this means Mac support.

Taken from this post:
http://www.teamspeak.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11792

[guldi]

see:
http://www.teamspeak.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12635

[cwich]

Originally posted by guldi
Do not ask us when TeamSpeak 3 will be ready, we still have lots of work to do for it - it will be done when it's done. One thing that TeamSpeak 3 will be, is a complete rewrite in C++ - yes this means Mac support.

Taken from this post:
http://www.teamspeak.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11792

Would it be an offense to ask in which language TS2 is written, if not in c++?

Despite you told me not to ask for it: can you just estimate in which dimension the time you'll still need lies...1 week, 1 month, 3 month, 6 month, 12 months? I am studying computer science and I know very good what software developement means...but I think that you propably have something like a plan for it...and certainly you dont break a secret when you tell me whether you expect finishing it in 3 or in 24 months :)

Thanx in advance

[Rustbucket]

So it's not just that there are a couple of bugs in the current version, and not only that TeamSpeak has to be ported from delphi to C...

Posted by SatanClaus earlier in this very thread.

So one can conclude that it is written in delphi. Have a good one.

[Vicious=TSE=]

Please, please, please.

It is such a pain in the a$$ for me to pull a PC laptop over to my PowerBook just to use TeamSpeak. Please, I know Apple sent you computers and I know you can do it, so please just get it done. There are more Mac players than you realize out here that despretly want TS on their machine. I love playing SOF2 on my PowerBook but this using a PC for TS has gotta stop! Please I am begging you.

TY

[GausianBlur]

*waits paitently*

:cool:

[Hoot14th]

Originally posted by guldi
Do not ask us when TeamSpeak 3 will be ready, we still have lots of work to do for it - it will be done when it's done.

I work in Department of Defense Aquisition, and if I can make a few suggestions to the TS team it would be this (knowing that TS is free, it's just a suggestion, don't get up in arms!)

When making a product for the 'customer', it is a general rule in commercial contracts to set 'milestones'. It's as simple as setting up measurable goals that can be used by the contractor (TS in this sense) and the customer (TS freeloaders in this sense :)

This serves the purpose of letting the 'customer' know whether the project is ahead or behind schedule.

So, a suggested program would be something like:

30 April 2003: Codecs fully implemented and tested with MAC.
15 May 2003: Beta testing of latest version compatibility with Windows commences.
30 May 2003: Beta testing of MAC compatibility commences (based on results Windows Compatability tests, milestone may be adjusted)

The idea is measurable goals with measurable results. I think this would help cut down on the flak that TS is taking, and allow the 'customer' to see goals/delays with reasons for delays.

Most people I think would be satisfied with this, as long as they can see measurable milestones. Even though it's free, , the above quote is not an acceptable reply for the 'customer'.

Just a suggestion, flame away! :D

[cwich]

Originally posted by kimphilby
To the Germans:

Insbesondere für die Deutsche Community, die scheinbar überhaupt keine Ahnung von Apple Computern haben und bestenfalls mit Linux arbeiten, sollten ihre Köpfe und Scheuklappen öffnen.

He talked german, so my response will be in german too, sorry for that.

Naja, das ist nicht ganz war. Ich studiere Informatik an der TU-Darmstadt, und da wird die Zahl der Apple-User (vorallem Powerbooks und iBooks) immer grösser und grösser...

[Twstdmonkey434]

I'm not sure what other games TS is used for, but i'm in a clan for the game Americas Army, and i am also a mac user, i find it particular anoying that i can't participate in TS with my clan mates because TS isn't out for the Mac. I see there is a version for Linux, i was wondering if you could make a version for the Mac, or if it's already in the making, could you tell me the due date for its release? thnx.

[Aglaea]

I'm very curious when the Mac version of Teamspeak will come. I have a Mac myself, so I need a Mac version.

I am in the process of looking for a Voice solution for conferencing for an international sports organisation. Since some people have experience with Teamspeak, I want to look into it, its possibilities and platform independency. Working on the Mac is of course a first for me when it comes to platform independency.

[Sisko]

Ummmm....Just say something....ANYTHING about the progress or lack there of on TS for Mac...that is all the mac gamers are asking for. BTW free macs to code this project....HELL where do I sign up for a scam like that?!?!?!?!?!?

[djibvongenf]

That would be great to have more informations about the beginning of TS osx version....

i will never buy a pc just to run TS.

be cool.

[Trigga04]

I was wondering where the Macintosh client downlaod was?? Anyone help?

[macdude]

There is no Mac Client as of yet, it's currently in development. Hopefully soon . . .

teverett.tk (http://www.teverett.tk)
BSA Troop 325 (http://www.bsatroop325.org)

[R. Ludwig]

i just hope after finishing this i will be still able to hear something... this mac machine does an incredible noise.

[djibvongenf]

u guys are just great!!!!

thanks a lot for your job

[djibvongenf]

don't forget ISIGHT users, we never know eh?

;)

[Mia-Steel]

Come on team speak guys. I have been waiting for the mac version ever since ts firts got out on pc. Now PLZ tell us just how far u got or anything

[Piglith]

I have 3 clan members drooling for a Mac client. More if there was a version.. They have even commented to pay for the version.

[Mia-Steel]

OMG i beg you on my knees to tell me how far you are..
Our clan is mac based and we are so in the need of it right now.
So please tell us how long you guys are.

[SG1DareDevil]

Hi i'm [SG-1]GOA-DareDevil from STV:Elite Force and me and my clan are setting up a teamspeak server for are clan. just one little problem I have Mac OSX. SO I was lookign at the FAQ and it said they were working on one and the post was from 2002. So it's been about 2 years just wondering if there is a OSX one yet?:confused:

[guldi]

you should read the news !
and as long as there is no MAC download in the download section the answer is no.

[djibvongenf]

im also in q3 truecombat clan...

Could we have a real answer? Mr. NeinSager?

Give us the code source, we will make a TS under 1 month.

Votre politique, c'est n'importe quoi.

have a nice day

[Brain]

Give us the code source, we will make a TS under 1 month.
That would be a bad idea for the developers. Even releasing TS as Open Source would be a bad idea, unless you have a large interest group or even a company backing you. Otherwise skilless code thieves will have easy pickings and might even try to DDoS the very server you use for distributing your work as a thank-you when you find them out and complain.

[noppavee]

please create teamspeak client for mac at least please.......... if u could make 1 for linux, then for mac too. there r quite a number of mac users over here.

[Brain]

I have something you don't have... *blepp-blepp-blepp* :p

http://www.brainspace.info/pictures/ts2-mac.jpg

[noppavee]

so where did u get that? i would love to have that help me out here........

[Peter]

he used a drawing programme to paint it up :). As the most recent news says: Mac with TS3, and the completion of TS3 is still a long way to go.

[noppavee]

jesus, i can't believe this brain. u drew it? it's not real? ufffffffffff for a second i was real excited.

[Brain]

Well, I got something you don't have - Windowblinds with Mac OS X theme.
It makes Winblows look like Mac OS.
I used this one to surprise my colleagues on April 1st... "Look, I'm running Mac OS X on my PC"
You can even download an OS X docking bar thing to change Windoze' look completely.

[noppavee]

buuuuuuu nothin compares with mac os x, it's just the best. and my g5 wuuuuuuuuuuu

[R. Ludwig]

this issue exists like 5000 times allready.

use search function. thx.

[jrk3001]

Does anyone know where i could find a version for mac or a 3rd party type program compatible?

[pluk]

Any time that a Mac OS X client version could come out?

[R. Ludwig]

search the forum, thx

[djibvongenf]

What happened to the old TS osx posts...?!?!?!

And yea, we are the first june 2004 (two thousands and four)

I dont see TS macosx version available for osx??

what happened? :D

i dont see the TS OSX download area, am i blind? :D

[=CTA=F.George]

Just wanted to throw my 2.34 cents in here to say that the Mac community is desperate for this! Well at least I am as my clan uses TS and I am left out in the cold. I would pay for this in a heartbeat and so would many mac gamers I am sure.

Thanks.

PS: Is this post a joke:
I dont see TS macosx version available for osx??

what happened?

i dont see the TS OSX download area, am i blind?

If it isn't a joke, then buddy, I don't mean to be rude or nothing but you got bigger problems than blindness... :eek:

[[CiA]Fodder]

I know my clan is also eagerly awaiting a Mac client for TeamSpeak as we now have at least one clan member with a Mac.

[djibvongenf]

KDX haxial.com (like carracho with voice conference :) )

and ivisit, 1vs1.

[BMac|Milhouse]

KDX is like Netfone, spent the bandwith to send about 3,4Ko/s for each person connected.

I see 3 french mac clan that are waiting for Teamspeak since 3 years ago, they have, at all, 150 gamers ago, and if teamspeak for mac is released, they will pay 10 Euro to buy it. Make the sum, 10 * 150, this is 1500 Euro only for 3 clan. So please, don't forget mac users, this is very important for us.

[R. Ludwig]

KDX is like Netfone, spent the bandwith to send about 3,4Ko/s for each person connected.

I see 3 french mac clan that are waiting for Teamspeak since 3 years ago, they have, at all, 150 gamers ago, and if teamspeak for mac is released, they will pay 10 Euro to buy it. Make the sum, 10 * 150, this is 1500 Euro only for 3 clan. So please, don't forget mac users, this is very important for us.

what is this bs ? do you think all goes about money ? if we would think that way all this would be total different...

i know its a long time and some peeps are pissed, but hey... we do our
thing and it will be a good thing!

[cwich]

Hey there,

three months ago I asked for a possibility to run TeamSpeak on Mac OS X. One answer was that TS will be rewritten in C++ and that would mean it will be available on Mac OS X as soon as this rewrite is finished.

My question now is: is it yet possibble to guess how long this rewriting process still will take?

THX in advance,

[cyclonex]

Edited post: OK, it was a pissy post, just tired of waiting ... :(

[R. Ludwig]

@cwich:
it will take some additional months.

the apple version will be released on the same day as the windows/linux/xyz version. also the apple version will include all features the other operating system versions got.

@cyclonex:
you are my favorite forum troll now.

[Brain]

I think it has been mentioned in a few spots already... TS is being converted from Delphi to C. Since TS is developed in spare time it will take a while. The more you whine and complain the longer it will take, see, the time Ralf just spent answering your post he could've spent coding.
And regarding the bugs, sure, TS has its bugs as any other software has, but I have never encountered a critical flaw that prevented me from using the program or important functionality of the program since I started using it almost two years ago.

[BMac|Milhouse]

@cwich:
it will take some additional months.

the apple version will be released on the same day as the windows/linux/xyz version. also the apple version will include all features the other operating system versions got.

This answer is convenient for me. Yesterday I spoke about moneybecause I believed that you had abandoned the mac version because you thought that it was a waste of time and money. Maybe the money shall have motivated you.

But if the software has to remain free, that will be better. It was just for saying that this kind of product missed cruelly on mac, and that we can pay a little to have one of it.

So good luke in your job.

[R. Ludwig]

I believed that you had abandoned the mac version because

we never said we stoped developing, we are just really busy with developing.

you should listen to what the developers say, not what forum trolls say.

[Viruses]

Sigh :( I wish we had a update since they said it won't be soon last year in may. Now it's June 2004 and still no mac ts :(
I'm starting to think about it being pointless to get my hopes up anymore.

[Brain]

From what I remember it's like this:

- There won't be a Mac port for TS2
- There will be a Mac version of TS3 when it comes out because TS is ported to C
- There is no fixed release date for TS3

[Ozzyman]

hey Viruses!
How's the iMac holding up? *snickers* :p

[GausianBlur]

So a little informal bet: Who will have a mac client first? Vent or TS?

Place yer bets ladies and gents.....although it looks like TS developers are much more active in the forums, unlike Vent.

Regardless whoever is first gets my vote...so hows it coming? comon throw me a bone here........I'll give you a cookie if you give me a quick update, oh and brain I think they can spare a couple of keystrokes, shouldnt slow em down to much... :p

Good work fellas look forward to hearing something...maybe?


p.s. Can I be a forum troll ;)

[GausianBlur]

Thats funny did a search for mac and only came up with 4 threads (not 5000) and one was closed because you dont need anymore mac threads?

I feel like uninvited family member from out of town.. :eek:

[Brain]

Have you ever watched the Smurfs when you were little?
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?"...

[Balthamos]

by the looks of it, mac users are not getting a client any time soon. at least vent has got a server for the mac, so they are halfway there,kinda. So the only solution I have found so far for us mac users and the windows users is KDX. I hate it and so does everyone else, but its the only voip client we got. hopefully, ts or vent can solve this problem.

~Balthamos

[R. Ludwig]

you wont get here anything soon. we do something new, something special, not just a crap rebuild.

[cwich]

@cwich:
it will take some additional months.

the apple version will be released on the same day as the windows/linux/xyz version. also the apple version will include all features the other operating system versions got.

@cyclonex:
you are my favorite forum troll now.


Thanx for the response :-)
One reason I am actually so keen for the OS X version is that I'd like to talk with my (PC using) mates in germany while I am in Australia (until September). Seems like I have to use the telefon instead, which is not too bad since phoning around the world became quite cheap. Just keep on working, think it will be great when u have finished and maybe I can use it when I'll leave europe next time :-)
Just wanna let you know I'll keep on hopefully looking into your download section :-)

[GausianBlur]

Have you ever watched the Smurfs when you were little?
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?"...

Nope smurfs were way after my Saturday morning cartoon fests, why do you ask u smarmy ass?


EDITED by Guldi: That's your last post with that kind of language. Otherwise you're not welcome anymore in this forum !

[Brain]

When the smurfs were on a hike they always bugged Papa Smurf.
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?" - "Not far"
...
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?" - "Not far"
...
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?" - "It is very, very, very far!!!"


BTW, I'm not a smarmy ass but a fellow coder and I advise you to watch your language.

[cwich]

Hi all you English speakers,



Mr_Rockbar: Is there a beta in progress or are there that many problems? (Editors note: Man.. Grammar people. I can barely understand this one.)

pb


Hehe, where did you learn german?
I have to admit that this sentence is a bit jumbled, but it is rather common speech than incorrect.
But it seems like your german is quite good....did you learn that in school? Thats not quite usual for american schools, I guess.

[Asker]

well. again. ts for mac. any info? liek when youll be testing it? maby if it world for the eMan 10.5? maby? yteah?

[cyberunk]

@cwich:
it will take some additional months.

the apple version will be released on the same day as the windows/linux/xyz version. also the apple version will include all features the other operating system versions got.

@cyclonex:
you are my favorite forum troll now.

I know you don't hear this much but one thing I'd like to thank you for is the commitment to releasing the Mac version at the same time as the others. As this doesn't happen very often to me this is very important to this Mac user.

Looking forward the the new version when it's ready.

Thanks,

Cyberunk

[Bastian]

By the way: Why is this annoying thread still open?

[ppc_g5]

By the way: Why is this annoying thread still open?because it's the only thread that inquiring mac users should post to. could be annoying to you if doesnt concern you, quite useful to some of us mac users.

thanks to ts developers trying to make the first mac ts version, eagerly awaiting its release. :D

[cyclonex]

^^^ bump to page 1 so all Mac related talk can stay here.

As for WWIIOL, I'm XO of Jaguar, an all Mac squad of about 60 people. A Linux port of the client (not server) of the C++ flavor of TS before the Mac version makes no sense. How many games are ported to Linux? There are millions of Mac users with games ready to go ... are you guys blind?

Visit www.apple.com for an update.

Those peope who do not follow Apple have no idea how well Apple is doing and how many games we have.

The G5 is simply awesome, and OSX Panther is the best OS out there, bar none. The US govt is dumping Windows in droves for the safer Panther OS and faster G5 chip.

Apple just sold 1,566 dual processor 1U rack-mount 64-bit Xserve G5 servers to COLSA Corp., which will be used to build what is expected to be one of the fastest supercomputers in the world. The $5.8 million cluster will be used to model the complex aero-thermodynamics of hypersonic flight for the U.S. Army. The US Gov't has been running from Windows the last few years.

Again, there are millions of Mac users wanting TS, wake up. Apple iTunes sold 800 thousand songs in Europe in one week, 16 times the number of other PC music stores.

This is not your father's Apple, give us some respect, please, someone else may well put out a cross platform TS-like product and TS will be vapor.

[SatanClaus]

dude, perhaps you didn't get the development: we are coding TS3 already.

so I suggest: don't put pressure on us :p

and to prevent questions: there's no deadline we can present. We don't know when it's done and we won't give you a date just to be unable to complete within the time.

[CaptainQuark]

*yawn*

Doesn't look like there'll be an OS X version any time soon.

Nothing new there then.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[CaptainQuark]

I'm prepared to PAY for it!

[cyclonex]

OSX Tiger, the next rev of OSX, will allow iChat and AIM users both video and voice comms with up to 10 people (PC and Mac users). So, this may work as a solution til TS 3 is finished.

[cyclonex]

Bump to front page ....

[Blava_merc]

Hey thanks for the tip on iChat.

[Sisko]

Old MacDonald had a farm..........

[m&m's]

ei ei o :p

[ktmouse]

Macs should have Teamspeak because OSX's are so fast, for example, and one reason I almost didn't buy one is because they didn't have any sup[port, so I bet Apple would love it!

He who leads gets shot, he who shoots gets promoted.

[Aurus]

OSX Tiger, the next rev of OSX, will allow iChat and AIM users both video and voice comms with up to 10 people (PC and Mac users). So, this may work as a solution til TS 3 is finished.

This isn't going to work as a solution until TS 3 is finished as Tiger, itself, won't even be released until 2005. Your best bet is to simply wait patiently to see which one finishes first: TS 3 or Tiger. Either way, it's going to be quite a few months...

-Aurus

PS - As a side note for clarification, Tiger will allow video up to 4 voice up to 10 people.

[GausianBlur]

When the smurfs were on a hike they always bugged Papa Smurf.
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?" - "Not far"
...
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?" - "Not far"
...
"How far is it, Papa Smurf?" - "It is very, very, very far!!!"


BTW, I'm not a smarmy ass but a fellow coder and I advise you to watch your language.

A fellow coder? Does that make you special somehow? Am I supposed to show you respect because you are a coder? Or because you have Smurf issues? Please clarify oh fellow coder.

If it makes you feel all powerful, then by all means have me banned, I really could care less. By the time TS gets to the mac I'll be retired and in Florida anyway.

p.s. I apologize to my fellow mac users for setting a bad example of our community, they arent all a*****es like me, Brain just irratated me with his condescending attitude. (see no bad words to scare the kiddies)

[Brain]

Hmmm... I wasn't particularly condescending with my smurfs remark. The smurfs analogy fits this situation perfectly, if you constantly get asked how long it will take you will get tired answering after a time. I didn't ask for worshippers.

By the way, quite a response time. Did it take you so long to look up "condescending" in the dictionary?

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but watching them flail about pointlessly is kind of funny... :p

[GausianBlur]

I apologize for not replying to you more rapidly. Unfourtunately I have a job and a life outside of work as well which precludes me from trolling forums all day long like yourself. But hey the whole spelling thing was a pretty good burn I must say.

That being said I'm afraid I 've missed the part where you zinged me so bad that I am now "flailing about" as you so elequently put it.

I believe this whole pointless nonsense started with you comparing people eager to have a voip solution to smurf children.....not really a complimentary analogy in my book. Well I'm out, gotta get back to work.....keep up the sharp witted barbs, because they sure do sting.

[Brain]

I believe this whole pointless nonsense started with you comparing people eager to have a voip solution to smurf children.....not really a complimentary analogy in my book
So that's what it is all about. Oh there there, I'm shooo shorry...
Well, I better let you get back to work, busy man.


I hereby state that consistent nagging is not nagging, but the efforts of eager people to hasten the development of their favourite voice communication tool. :p

[GausianBlur]

So that's what it is all about. Oh there there, I'm shooo shorry...
Very childish.

Well, I better let you get back to work, busy man.

Thank you, thats very kind.


I hereby state that consistent nagging is not nagging, but the efforts of eager people to hasten the development of their favourite voice communication tool. :p

Actually Ventrilo is my first choice, but beggars cant be chosers.

[Brain]

Actually Ventrilo is my first choice, but beggars cant be chosers.
And you call me childish? ROFL :D

[GausianBlur]

And you call me childish? ROFL :D

I'm afraid I dont get your meaning. My clan mates use Vent, therefore its my first choice. Having no experience with either application (I'm a impatient smurf remember) thats all I have to go by.

Its been really fun talking with you, but I'm afraid I'm officially bored with this now.

Feel free to have the last word.

[Brain]

A sound tactical move. After running out of ammo or encountering an equally well-equipped combatant feigning desinterest and walking away might safe your face... or not.

You were the one who started with an insult ("smarmy ass", remember?). I'm not taking shit from the likes of you who don't contribute anything but complaints and use a strong magnification lens to look for things to be artificially offended about.

[Aurus]

i could have sworn this was a thread about the availability of a mac client. :p

-Aurus

[GausianBlur]

A sound tactical move. After running out of ammo or encountering an equally well-equipped combatant feigning desinterest and walking away might safe your face... or not.

You were the one who started with an insult ("smarmy ass", remember?). I'm not taking shit from the likes of you who don't contribute anything but complaints and use a strong magnification lens to look for things to be artificially offended about.

Ok fine lets keep it going, first off whats up with the profanity? Now am I mistaken or wasn't I repremanded by a moderator and yourself for the use of the a## word (a reletively minor infraction to be sure). Somehow you are immune from those same rules as I see no admonishment by a moderator? or are you all "fellow coders" and the rules don't apply?

Second what exactly can i contribute? I merely pop in once a month or so to check progress. I can volunteer to beta test or contribute money (which I have on the vent forum), aside from that I can only wait like the rest. Apparently though we should wait in silence as you dont like the question to be asked "to many times".

The other thing I'd like to ask you is, are you a mac user?

and finally you know the old internet joke that goes....Even if you win an argument on the web your still retarded? Thats the main reason I want to quit this, but hey if you wanna keep the fun going lets get nuts (or retarded in this case).

My apologies again to my fellow mac users who stumble across this while looking for an update.

[Brain]

Ok fine lets keep it going, first off whats up with the profanity? Now am I mistaken or wasn't I repremanded by a moderator and yourself for the use of the a## word (a reletively minor infraction to be sure). Somehow you are immune from those same rules as I see no admonishment by a moderator? or are you all "fellow coders" and the rules don't apply?
Profanity... well yes, Guldi edited out and gave you a warning. The reason why I wasn't "reprimanded" is simple: I didn't use profanity, but sarcasm. I'm just a normal user here without any special powers and i"m not affiliated with the TS team in any way.

Second what exactly can i contribute? I merely pop in once a month or so to check progress. I can volunteer to beta test or contribute money (which I have on the vent forum), aside from that I can only wait like the rest. Apparently though we should wait in silence as you dont like the question to be asked "to many times".
I didn't ask you to contribute anything. But it would be a wise move not to contribute profanity. Your conclusion that you can only wait until it is released is quite correct, however your statement that I don't like the question asked too many times is erroneous since the concatenation of all Mac threads into this one was a decision of the board administration. I didn't propose it and I didn't have any say in this decision. How could I anyways?

The other thing I'd like to ask you is, are you a mac user?
No, there aren't any Macs in my faculty and being a lazy, non-working student I can't afford one because almost all my earnings go into minimum existentional requirements like food, shelter, water, paper, pencils and books.

and finally you know the old internet joke that goes....Even if you win an argument on the web your still retarded? Thats the main reason I want to quit this, but hey if you wanna keep the fun going lets get nuts (or retarded in this case).
Yes, this is usually the third option after attributing other people's decisions or actions to your adversary fails. Feel free to pull out and make me look retarded if you wish. No, wait a second, didn't you state you were bored and offered me to have the last word? ;)
Don't you feel retarded per this saying/joke for dragging this out?

[Aurus]

i am asking the two of you to please stop posting in this thread unless it is on-topic. if you insist on degrading and insulting each other, please feel free to swap e-mails or phone numbers or addresses and you can continue elsewhere.

thank you, in advance, for your understanding and cooperation.

-Aurus

[GausianBlur]

i am asking the two of you to please stop posting in this thread unless it is on-topic. if you insist on degrading and insulting each other, please feel free to swap e-mails or phone numbers or addresses and you can continue elsewhere.

thank you, in advance, for your understanding and cooperation.

-Aurus

My apologies Aurus, Brain I will not reply to any further postings of yours. If that makes you believe that you have somehow "won" this little tiff than by all means enjoy yourself.

One last thing though, if your not a mac user then why are you even posting in here? Free country and all but its seems to me it really doesnt concern you now does it?

buh bye

[Brain]

My apologies Aurus, Brain I will not reply to any further postings of yours. If that makes you believe that you have somehow "won" this little tiff than by all means enjoy yourself.
Well, since you started the mud-throwing it seems fitting that you conclude it. Very well, so be it.
I don't think I have "won", when someone pees at my leg, I just kick him off until he stops coming back.

One last thing though, if your not a mac user then why are you even posting in here? Free country and all but its seems to me it really doesnt concern you now does it?
Because this thread also pops up under the "newest posts" and you wanted to know why there are so little Mac threads so I gave you an analogy. Given the responses (or lack thereof) of other people I take it you're the only one who read this thread since the last month and didn't get it and - for reasons beyond my comprehension - believed it was a personal attack against you.
Let me tell you this: Not every Sun/PC buff out there is going to attack you for no reason (or just because you're a Mac user) and certainly not I.
Had you not responded in such an aggressive way this situation wouldn't have grown that big and there would be no need for you to apologize to other Mac users for my postings. :p I hope you don't react like this in real life as well...

Bye-bye GausianBlur

[GausianBlur]

you couldnt let it go without the last word.

[Brain]

you couldnt let it go without the last word.
You asked me a question, remember?
"One last thing though, if your not a mac user then why are you even posting in here? Free country and all but its seems to me it really doesnt concern you now does it?"
It's impolite not responding to someone's question if you're directly asked, isn't it?

[GausianBlur]

You asked me a question, remember?
"One last thing though, if your not a mac user then why are you even posting in here? Free country and all but its seems to me it really doesnt concern you now does it?"
It's impolite not responding to someone's question if you're directly asked, isn't it?

Yes this back and forth has been nothing if not polite, I'm off to go and post on some wintel forum which is of no concern to me. Other than the fact that I believe my self to be humourus.

aww jeesh looks like I got sucked back in again.

[ppc_g5]

Are there any moderators working in this forum? :eek:

I think mac user's only hope is that the next aao release will have voice comm built-in, then we wont need to use this ts that lags and causes ce on my windows pc. What a pain that I'm forced to use xp when i have a very stable and fast os/machine :rolleyes:

[R. Ludwig]

Are there any moderators working in this forum? :eek:
I think mac user's only hope is that the next aao release will have voice comm built-in, then we wont need to use this ts that lags and causes ce on my windows pc. What a pain that I'm forced to use xp when i have a very stable and fast os/machine :rolleyes:

ah why moderate this forum, all this nice posts give us the power to keep on
developing teamspeak.

[commandotx]

Hey guys, you got two G5's from Apple and you didn't post a thing on your coding. I looked in Vent forums and Flagship already did the server, he is now working on the client.

If it was not because of a poll in my clan's forums, I would stay on Vent. My clan voted for TS cos it lagged less than ventrilo but I can't have neither of them. For the moment, I have TS on my dad's PeeCee but I would like to have it on my Mac.

It is disapointing that people who have been given themselves brand-new computers, did nothing more than a guy who spent his own money to buy a Mac and already coded a Server. I totally support TS and Vent but common guys at TS, you have to get this client out and running soon. The client is more needed than the server, I think, because most people do not have Mac-only clans and have PC users hosting the server.

Thanks for reading.

[commandotx]

ah why moderate this forum, all this nice posts give us the power to keep on
developing teamspeak.

Man! you get all these nice posts because u do NOTHING! You don't feeedback people about TS development!! Well, not on Mac. Just click on this (http://forums.clant2k.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40040) link and check out how many feedback posts that you see.
BTW, there are 15 pages.

[m&m's]

Man! you get all these nice posts because u do NOTHING! You don't feeedback people about TS development!! Well, not on Mac. Just click on this (http://forums.clant2k.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40040) link and check out how many feedback posts that you see.
mac version is in the work and will be in version TS3 being worked on now ... released when it is done :confused: i read about the first Quater of 2005 ??? but dont quote me lol

[commandotx]

I'm afriad TS won't be available for the Mac. The codecs TS uses aren't available for the Mac and it would also require a complete rewrite of TS for it to run on a Mac.

When this next version of Quicktime becomes available, the CELP codec will be part of the default Quicktime suite. This means that one significant barrier to making a Mac Client will go away.

let us finish first windows ok ?

Delphi has program which allows you to automaticly port Windows programs into Linux programs without too many changes..

But as Ralf said, we'll look into it ones TS 2.0 been released, who knows

Jeezus... U guys can do a lot of coding for the mac version, but you do nothing. You say codecs arent the same, Celp will be ported on mac in the next version of Quicktime.You say its gonna be worked out when 2.0 gets out, 2.2 is out... Common guys! You gotta start to work on it! Use that delphi proggy, and then translate the rest without no big effort.

[Brain]

Spoken like the experienced, weather-hardened coder you are. I salute you! :D

Heh, I'm back from vacation btw, and the collective Mac thread is as funny as it was two weeks ago.

[commandotx]

:rolleyes: Wouldn't it be easier to make a small client for Mac, like have basic functions like PTT, adjust out-inp, register on a server (every BASIC functions TS has) and Use CELP Codec... If you guys just did that, you would be recognized by every mac gamer as a "Pionneer" in voice communication systems on mac. Ventrilo has done more than you, they already have the server out, do better and get the client out! I am not for TS or for Vent, nor against any of them, I just want one of you guys (more TS cos my clan is on it) to get a client that works with PC users. :D

Did you understand me or was it some kind of crappy english? :eek: Sry if it's bad, I'm french. :D

Edit: I salute you too ;)

[Brain]

I would agree with you if the TS developers worked full-time on Teamspeak. But they don't. You can't write even a small program "just so", especially if it is intended for a big audience. Being a strong believer in specification-driven software development I wouldn't do that because if you just slap some code together and release it chances are good it's buggy, it's crap and people will hate it.

Well, at least you chilled a bit when I compare your last post to the ones before. You can rest assured the Devs are doing anything but nothing. TS3 is going to be written in C and that means a complete rewrite. Coupled with the new and improved functionality TS3 will have that's a buttload of work.
Ranting and complaining won't change that. If it did lots of people would yell at their computers to reduce their programming assignments, including me :D

[louig1]

umm there is a program out for mac that emulates some versions of windows so running ts with the windows emulation should not be a problem

[commandotx]

Brain,

I would be really happy to be one of the beta testers on the mac version. Even if you slapped some code together, I would beta-test it with enjoyment.

Why would you re-write teamspeak in C? (just a question)

What I would do is take like a couple hours of my work on the PC version and use it to translate TS to linux, then call in somebody who knows well linux/mac and ask him to help u to do the small dirty job of changing little things in the code. Then, release a cheap client, ask for beta-testers, and fix the bugs once in a while. Voila :D ( It is just MY opinion )

[Brain]

Well, I'm not a developer so I can't give you the specific reason, but I think it's mainly to please you Mac users who have been waiting for a voice client so long.
You see, TS2 was written in Delphi and according to the TS devs they've tried porting it over to the Mac, but failed because they needed a compatible compiler.
Linux on the other hand was cool because Borland (the company that produces Delphi) has also released a Delphi compiler for Linux, I think it is called "Kylix".

Having TS3 in C will make it easier to port since all OSes have C compilers. Who knows, maybe by the time it is out you could even use it on a smartphone. Since there are network operators who sell some kind of internet flatrate for your mobile so you can surf all you want for a fixed price this could be a very interesting alternative for communication junkies ;)

[entspeak]

I hope that there will soon be a Mac version of TS. Being an avid player of America's Army and seeing the benefits, I would love to have the opportunity to use it. I hope the rewrite will allow a Mac port to exist. The Mac gaming community is growing and could use software like this.

[commandotx]

Hey Devs!( or coders )

Could you make a choppy client out for mac with all "BASIC" functions the windows one has :confused:.Dont speand much time to debug it at first, send it to me, I'll beta-test it with pleasure. :p

This is just and idea that was given before, by me :D

[SatanClaus]

we're working on ts3, we'll not waste time with such experiments that frustrate many and help few.
And it would be nice if we wouldn't have to waste this much time by reading a thread that basically just shows impatience and unfair behaviour towards us...

cu
SatanClaus

[commandotx]

It is your job to answer people's questions! And yes, it is fair to show some impatience because you have been given 2 Computers since who knows when( tell me please :D ) to work on the macintosh version and all we get is: we're working on ts3 ...

[Brain]

I've got an excellent idea: How about you have to pay for Teamspeak? Not only for commercially hosting servers, but also for private servers and for each and every client you download?
With that funding the developers could quit their daytime jobs and devote their whole time to developing Teamspeak!
Then you can start demanding...

[m&m's]

time to close this thread ts3 is in the works it's done when it's done :p i say that becuse i dont own a mac , only eat them lol
"big mac's" <--- added 4 the for the dim :D

[Brain]

Those Macs aren't good for you. They increase your armor around the mid-section.

[commandotx]

lmao...
I dont care paying for a mac client man! All mac users will pay for one! I think you noticed macs are more expensive than peecees, so I guess people who have the money to buy one can afford some apps too :D

[R. Ludwig]

@commandotx:
teamspeak is a hobby project, that means its not our job to give answers to forum trolls like you. there are several better ways on howto waste our time...

its pretty heavy that you ask here indirectly that we have to proove that we do something at all. if you think thats the way to go with us you are on the wrong track.

i can understand that people get angry, its the same like me with world of warcraft, but good software needs time. we want to bring a good software and we will bring a good software so we just need TIME.

so ether accept that we need our time (yeah i know, alot of time) or search for an different voiceapplication. but for any choice, try to understand both sides. not only yours...

[bry223]

@commandotx:
teamspeak is a hobby project, that means its not our job to give answers to forum trolls like you. there are several better ways on howto waste our time...

its pretty heavy that you ask here indirectly that we have to proove that we do something at all. if you think thats the way to go with us you are on the wrong track.

i can understand that people get angry, its the same like me with world of warcraft, but good software needs time. we want to bring a good software and we will bring a good software so we just need TIME.

so ether accept that we need our time (yeah i know, alot of time) or search for an different voiceapplication. but for any choice, try to understand both sides. not only yours...


Im not a Mac user. Looking at this thread its over 2 years old .... first its "lets wait until 2.0 comes out" now its "lets wait until 3.0 comes out" it seems to me like you guys arent even working on the Mac version at all. I know its a hobby, and I applaud your work on teamspeak, but what you could do is at least admit to the Mac community that you arent working onthe Mac Port and you dont have plans on releasing one ANYtime soon. They at least deserve that.

The mac gaming community is growing, and with games like World Of Warcraft coming out on both platforms, TS will be in high demand, because its the preferred VoIP program for MMO's right now, and the mac community will get left out. Ventrilo will probably release a Mac Client before you guys do.

If you guys need the help, Im sure any expierenced Mac Coder can do this for you if your having that -much- of a problem, a 2 year problem.

[Brain]

at least admit to the Mac community that you arent working onthe Mac Port and you dont have plans on releasing one ANYtime soon. They at least deserve that.
If you read the whole Mac thread you'd know why things turned out like they have.
In a nutshell: As you probably know (or not) TS2 was written in Delphi. When trying to port it to the Mac it became obvious that it can't be done easily and would more or less require a complete rewrite.
So they said: "OK, if we have to rewrite the software anyways let's do it in C which is easily portable to Windows, Linux, MacOS". And so they embarked on the noble quest of developing a whole new Teamspeak software from scratch in C.

[GausianBlur]

Smurf checking in....

Nothing new, Brain still trolling the mac thread

Off to check on Vent status.

[Brain]

Smurf checking in....

Nothing new, Brain still trolling the mac thread

Off to check on Vent status.

Hmmmm... I am a troll? ROFL!

[GausianBlur]

Hmmmm... I am a troll? ROFL!

and he snags him with his first cast....


ROFLMAO...LOL OMG...

[R. Ludwig]

and he snags him with his first cast....
ROFLMAO...LOL OMG...

i heard mages needs alot of INT for casting ... something dont fit here.

[InfamousTim]

i heard mages needs alot of INT for casting ... something dont fit here.

Bah hahahahahahahahahahah!
heh heh heh ... hmm *ahem* ...

...
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

</nervous laughter>

[InfamousTim]

Rather than trash the dev team and talk down to them like they're infants or something, I would like to offer my hearty compliments to even think about developing for the Mac. It's a tough job, and it's unfortunately turned very political too.
Most all of us have used TS on Windows or Linux, so we know it's good stuff. We know that the Mac version will be just as great. Just want to support you guys and say "thanks!" and "keep up the good work."

Tim

[m&m's]

whats that brown spot on the end of your nose tim ????? :confused: lol

lol i second it lol keep up the good work :D

[InfamousTim]

*innocent look* what brown spot?

[commandotx]

Huh, any new news?

[R. Ludwig]

bumping it dont bring news, only a close.

[commandotx]

Yeah :( you're right... :eek:

[virtual]

In my frustration to use TS for my Call of Duty HoB game I installed the latest version of Virtual PC and on that installed the TS2 client without a problem. I know others have said it didn't work, but I am up for a challenge.

Although I managed to hear other players, they couldn't hear me. Even with a 1 Mhz processor the TS client took 5 mins to start up and the voices heard were terrible.

The bottom line is, don't waste your time. We will just have to be patient and wait for our version to be released.

BTW Just ordered the new iMac 20" G5 - watch out Cod PC users you are history!

[Balthamos]

This is how I see it. TS Client for Mac is not coming out any time soon. Whining and complaining is not going to make them program any faster. We do have a couple of choices though: 1. Find a VOIP program for Mac/Windows. There are a few. Here they are:
1. Skype (http://www.skype.com/)
2. iVisit (http://www.ivisit.com/)
3. KDX (http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/index2.html)
All of them are Mac/Windows compatible. Skype is free and can connect up to five users at a time. iVisit can connect up to unlimited amount of people, provided that you can find an unused room. And KDX is shareware, progressing in time waiting to start up to 300 seconds. None of these programs are heavy in the voice preferences, except KDX. Other than that, I do not think there are many other VOIP programs. You could also wait for the release of Darwine (http://darwine.opendarwin.org//). Not only will it emulate TS, but basically ANY Windows program. This of course will take time to make, but it may come out before the Mac client does... So there is your choices Mac users. As for those wanting to join with your fellow PC users on TS, I'm afraid you will have to sit and wait.

~Balthamos

[the_raVen]

Hi there, I just switched to mac and I love it. I'm playing a lot of Battlefield 1942 on it, as well as the Desert Combat mod. I play with a clan, called Order Of Ronin (http://www.orderofronin.com) who are a very cool bunch of people. They use TeamSpeak 2 esxlusively, so if I want in on the action I have to wait for TS3 and hope that it really does support Mac OSX.

I would like to say to the developers of TeamSpeak that you are appreciated. As a token of my faith in you, I'm going to make a suggestion: Why not start a payPal 'donate' account so Mac users can send you money? I would be willing to donate to such a fund, and I'm sure other mac users would too...

All the best,

the_raVen

[OrangeMarlin]

In my frustration to use TS for my Call of Duty HoB game I installed the latest version of Virtual PC and on that installed the TS2 client without a problem. I know others have said it didn't work, but I am up for a challenge.

Although I managed to hear other players, they couldn't hear me. Even with a 1 Mhz processor the TS client took 5 mins to start up and the voices heard were terrible.

The bottom line is, don't waste your time. We will just have to be patient and wait for our version to be released.

BTW Just ordered the new iMac 20" G5 - watch out Cod PC users you are history!

I'm running VPC 6.1 on a Powerbook 12" 1.25Ghz. I installed TS, and it's not bad, but far from perfect. First, it does take an inordinate amount of time to start up TS. I'm not sure why, but it does. I'm using a logitech USB headset.

The sound output is perfect in my opinion. I can hear everyone as if they were next door. Sound input from the microphone leaves a lot to be desired. It's garbled as if every second it cuts out then cuts back in. I've tried everything to fix this, but have been unable to figure it out, even with help from Microsoft.

I haven't gotten VPC 7.0 yet, which will work on my dual-2.0 G5. I might get better quality there.

For any of you trying this out, here's a couple of hints. Go to the sound preference panel, and make sure that the the right inputs and outputs are highlighted. For some reason, the Mac occasionally will not switch to them when you plug in a USB headset. Second, you cannot restart VPC from a saved state. After you start up VPC, you need to restart windows XP to make this work.

This is the best solution going, and I think as VPC is able to emulate faster intel processors, TS may not ever have to make a mac native program.

[OrangeMarlin]

I can't believe some of the rude comments I've read in this thread. These guys are doing this for free, and you criticize them?

I'm glad that they are considering and planning for a Mac version. A lot of people just ignore the Mac market, and these guys have figured out a way to get us on board the TS system.

For now, I'll work with Windows TS with VPC.

[GausianBlur]

ehh I tried the VP route and it sux on my 1.25machine. Personally I'm rooting for Ventrilo but hey It cant hurt to have more than one VoIP app available.

[Brain]

Actually all you CAN do is wait. If you don't want to wait how about buying a used or old low-grade PC? 400Mhz, 128MB RAM with WinBlows 98SE or better, that's more than enough for the job and you can get systems like that starting with 100 Euro.

[GausianBlur]

The day I use wintel is the day Apple stops selling computers. But hey thanks for the tip, I only hear it 400 times a week from my clan mates. Actually I've been using Skype works pretty good but only holds 4 people but it is available for Mac PC and Linux...how can they do that? :eek:

[Kafka]

SO...

Cross Platform developing has gotta be hell. I work between Windows and Macs all the time. Glad to hear that TS is being worked on for both. I game on Macintosh and I would love to have it available :). Why doesn't some profit oriented company like...ASPYR! come up with some goddamn software? We should bother them! Send them emails! and yes I understand the protocol IS 'TS' for PC based clans. I hate to see other Macintosh users whine about "Lack of Software" when Macintosh holds the industry standard in software for sound and design. Hey, just not in gaming!....but things are changing and games are coming out within a month of PC releases now.
Just not all of them...but hey let's admit

1) Games are a tremendous waste of time
2) there are some god awful games out there so be glad they never make it over :p .!!

..anyway i don't really have a point. I just want to say keep the development up! I'll use it when it arrives! Untill then it's Key Binds! or a trashy Hewlitt Packard/Dell from the sidewalk. :eek:

Cheers,
{Vivant} Kafka

[OrangeMarlin]

Actually all you CAN do is wait. If you don't want to wait how about buying a used or old low-grade PC? 400Mhz, 128MB RAM with WinBlows 98SE or better, that's more than enough for the job and you can get systems like that starting with 100 Euro.

There are several problems with this. First, most Apple nuts like me would be reticent to even think about using a Windoze POS. Second, anything but XP is just flaky with USB (most headsets are USB), so you need to get a more powerful computer, which costs. Third, you'll either need an ethernet card, which you still want XP for simple setup, or WiFi, which, again, requires XP. Yes, I know you can do all of those things with 98, 2000, Me, etc., but it's really difficult to debug and troubleshoot, which is why we're on Macs anyways. Finally, with a second computer, you're going to eat up a lot of desk space.

So, just to run TeamSpeak, you probably need a laptop, 500Mb, running at 1Ghz, at least. You might find one on eBay for $600-$750. That's a lot just to talk on a game.

Like I said, I will install VPC on my dual 2.0 G5, once I get around to buying VPC 7.0, and try it there. I'll bet performance will be somewhat better than blowing.

[dwpoyner]

All you complainers are tards. You make me wish I never bought a mac. I love it except for the idiots that think they deserve special treatment because they own a mac. Get a life and stop whining. Let these guys get some work done instead of reading and replying to your crap. And if they don't come out with a mac version. Boo-Hoo! At least I have a win desktop for gaming! :)

[Balthamos]

And at least it can crash better than ours can. Yep, they should put that as one of its special features. Auto Crashing Built In!

~Balthamos

[GausianBlur]

All you complainers are tards. You make me wish I never bought a mac. I love it except for the idiots that think they deserve special treatment because they own a mac. Get a life and stop whining. Let these guys get some work done instead of reading and replying to your crap. And if they don't come out with a mac version. Boo-Hoo! At least I have a win desktop for gaming! :)

get lost win boy

[Brain]

And again, the guy who can't spell, putting the MAC back into sMACktard...

[GausianBlur]

your going to have to clarify that insult.

But hey, pointing out spelling errors is a good one.


Now go away.

[Brain]

If you can't do anything but flame, maybe you should stay away. Oh, and the spelling error is in your nick.
And I'm not going to clarify, you're a native English speaker, you should know :p

[dwpoyner]

get lost win boy

Running linux server, win client. It rocks. Never crashes. I'm enjoying using my teamspeak everyday!

[chrisrice]

i have a problem, i'm running ts on virtual pc and i can hear them clearly but when i am talking everyone is saying i'm breaking up, and it's like a...rrr.ttt.yyy. I am giving it plenty of memmory and it still it messing up. Whats going on?
I have tried forcing 8 bit encoding and i still break up.

second problem when i set it to go on wave setting, sometimes the audio dissapears, and when restarting it still no sound. then i have to reset it back to direct one and the restart and then it fixes it's self. Whats goin on there?

I am runnin it on a dual g4 (last version) with 2gb ram.

[benj1989]

it's vpc
i have it also giving it 500mb ram it isn't working (and vpc isn't using that i have seen),
thay can't hear me and i can hear them but it's 'hashed'
but that is a sound problem of vpc

[chrisrice]

i can hear them perfectly fine and clear, they just can't hear me.

I'm thinking of instaling linux but i don't know how.

[Abram]

Guys has anyone tryed running VPC With unix installed??? and then run TS??? might work

[chrisrice]

no, mac is capable of running linux on its own and vpc is the problem. so if any one knows how to set up linux on a mac please contact me.

[dgraham]

Yellow Dog Linux works on macs. This is the only mac distro I'm aware of but I think there might be others.

http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

[SS-3_Hollywood]

hi, im a faithful TS user, and i play Raven sheild and Americas army, both of wich are avalable for pc and mac, now i had a Windows computer, then it crashed, and all i have now is my apple, if you guys would be super kind and devolep a client for OSX on the mac, im sure you'll bring in alot more users, as more and more games are being avalable for Mac as well. Thank you


EDITED by Guldi: thx for using the search next time, there is already a MAC thread => Merged !

[maclover477]

Ok TeamSpeak dudes, im just askin for an update on the whole mac deal, im not whinning or anything like that just wantin an update. im haven to run teamspeak off of my win. laptop and playin Medal Of Honor allied assult off of my mac. and let me tell u that it is hard as hell to keep up with talkin and playin on 2 different computers!!! So just an update would scratch my itch and im not goin to be like the other mac users and cry their eyes out!
thanks in advance

[BoB]gReaT|oNe

[Brain]

Last information I saw here: 1st quarter 2005, PC, Linux and Mac versions will be released together.