winx xp & sb audigy DIFFERENT echo problem

[BsTdNaToR]

I have been through the forum looking for posts on echo's and sadly this is not the solution.
I'm using windows xp pro sp2, with a creative audigy 2. headphones and the latest drivers. i am a pc techie so dont patronise me in the reply please.
i also have push to talk and voice activation is equally as bad.

The problem apears on ALL ts servers, even local test loop, with an echo that happens exponentially (repeats getting louder each time) its like some noise and yes it would apear to be something like a "what you hear" setting. however all other sound outputs are muted and only the "microphone" is set to record in both windows and creative volume control / audio mixer. this problem was not there when i had win xp sp1 and as far as i know might well be something to do with sp2 (however the windows firewall is disabled and the firewall i am using is configured properly to allow ts2). from windows if i un-mute the mic there is NO ECHO. so the echo only as far as i can tell comes when ts2 is trying to send data to the server.

Also, my other pc, which is connected THROUGH this one, does not have the same problem, but has completly different hardware.

also, from testing i can deduce that the echo volume can be stopped from gaining exponentially by lowering TS2's output volume setting to less than half way. but there is still a audible echo that takes some time to go. also this is not a fix as it means i have to sit 2" from my mic to be heared by other ts2 users and the original echo is still there. and no, i do not want to invest in a headset + mic combo as i am using £120 sony cordless digital headphones and i would have to be crazy to swap them for anything else.

If you know of a fix, please email me / post a reply. if you have the same problem please BUMP this thread

[guldi]

usually a wrong recording setting (had this with the Kxdriver till I configured them correct).

- do you get this when recording with the win wave recorder as well
- ever tested TS with direct and/or wave sound
- mic muted in playback ?

- reinstal lthe drivers & directX

[BsTdNaToR]

- do you get this when recording with the win wave recorder as well
sound recorder? no its crystal clear
- ever tested TS with direct and/or wave sound
both are the same
- mic muted in playback ?
of course it is, i dont wanna hear myself on my phones
- reinstal lthe drivers & directX
directx 9.0c, creative driver 5.12.1 (ie, both latest versions)

for a better explanation, see the pic below (or the attatched sound files). both tests are of me tapping the microphone ONCE ONLY and the resulting wave graphs and recordings.
left = on ts but not transmitting. right = on ts and transmitting.

[BsTdNaToR]

BUMP!

what is this then??
no1 have an answer?

[no12call]

I had a friend that has his 2 pc's linked together via a 1/8 cable from both sound cards. He did this so he could use one as a mixer for the other before it went to the speakers. My guess is that you are doing the same. I would hook the TS machine directly to the speakers removing the other machine from the loop entirely. That fixed his problem and I am going to guess yours as well. :o

[BsTdNaToR]

im not doing that. the only wire between my 2 pcs is a network cable.
and the echo is there when the other machine is off.

since doing the last test i have been back into wavestudio and found that the echo is not just with ts.

if i play winamp and record the mic at the same time, there is a very quiet (but audible) repeat of what the headphones are hearing. this is more than just the amount of sound the headphones are leaking to the mic as when the volume on the headphones is right off, there is still the same repetition of "what you hear" to the mic. however, "what you hear" is off. i checked that today along with trying all other recording sources in the surround mixer. either i have no sound from the mic at all, or with the mic i also have a low version of the speaker output.
maybe i should post this onto creative forums.

[guldi]

tested other drivers (KX Drivers) ?
I still have the feeling you have wrong sound settings (or bad drivers)

[BsTdNaToR]

i'll try d/ling a new copy of the drivers and put them on, but i dont wanna try another driver(kx) as i like lots of the features in these (ie cmss) cos im often watching 2 channel films and upmixing them to 4 is perfect for my setup (nice sony seperates system on rear speaker channel) unless there is a driver to pick which channel a particular app outputs to, i wouldnt want to loose the cmss.

[dpowles]

Hi! I'm having a similar problem as you, on Dell Insprion XPS with the built in sound card. No matter what settings, and whether it's the built in mic or a mic stand, i get that echo in local loop as well as when my kids are on line with TS. Using the built-in speakers. Same for the two XPS laptops. Any suggestions? Never had this problem with the Dell Desktop we have.

thanks!

[dpowles]

p.s. - sound card is SIGMATEL STAC comes with the system - i updated to the latest drive Dell has to offer and problem still exists. thanks

[Malachi]

Do you have AudioHQ from Creative if so check in there and see if there is a reverb setting. If there is turn it off. If that is not the problem it does sound like you don't have your mic muted in the playback side of volume control/audio mixer. I hope you get it worked out, I know how annoying that can be.

[dpowles]

'fraid i don't have that - just the standard stuff that came with the XPS. no matter what i do, including going to a headset, i can't get rid of the feedback and echo - on either one of my inspiron xps laptops. something is incompatible with teamspeak - it's a shame, too, since the XPS is supposed to be THE gaming system in competition with Alienware laptops.

Anyone else have an Inspiron XPS working with teamspeak out of the box?

thanks!

[Malachi]

Sorry DPowles the AudioHQ thing was for the guy with the audigy sound card. Are you running WinXP? If so then check your volume control settings. Is your mic muted in Playback? You can click on the little speaker at the bottom right of your screen, then goto Options, then Properties. From there click Playback, and make sure the mic control option is checked at the bottom of the properties window. Click OK and make sure the mic is muted. Then go back to properties and select Recording, same as before but this time make sure that the mic is not muted. If you already know this sorry, this is just one thing that can cause this. Hope it helps.

[dpowles]

thanks, but i don't even have a Mic selection under play back.

[Malachi]

Look at these pics...I underlined in black or red what I meant. Make sure you chose playback control like in the top pic first. Then after clicking ok in top pic you should have the option to mute like in the second pic.

[dpowles]

Malachi - thanks for your very kind effort. See the attached pic from my system. Playback does not have a mic selection, while record does. Perplexing! And this is what comes with the Inspiron XPS.

[Malachi]

That is weird...what kind of sound controller? Is there any more options when you scroll to the right...it seems like there might be more stuff there. My laptop has alot more options for playback and recording.

[dpowles]

Yeah, I know - most everyone posting on these forums seems to have laptops with more choices. No, there's nothing when you scroll to the side. It's a Dell Inspiron XPS laptop and the sound card is a Sigma Tel C-Major audio system. The driver is from Dell and those recent. This is supposed to be their top of the line laptop to compete with the likes of Alienware - and the laptop screams otherwise - has a Radeon 9800 in it. But this problem stymies me. My old Dimension desktop does better than this, but it has an SB Live! soundcard.

[Viqer Fell]

Don't know if this may or may not help but I appear to have had the exact same problem.

Using win Xp Sp2, Audigy 2 soundcard, creative drivers. Get odd feedback echo looping with exponential boost to the problem sound.

Once you have ticked the box to add the mic to the playback under windows mixer as shown in posts in this thread, then click on the advanced box underneath it.

uncheck the mic boost 20db box. then once ok'd check the mic mute box in the main volume window.

With the volume set midway depite being muted and the mic recording volume set fairly high . set ts output volume to circa 60%. This removed the looping echo for me albeit ppl have said i still sound fairly quiet.

hope this helps somebody as this prob has plagued me for months on and off

[Paps]

This is what worked for me:

- Go to your Sound Control Panel (sound properties window)

- Under the Options, go to Properies

- Select Adjust Volume for "Recording"

- Make sure Microphone is checked off.

- Move the checkbox to the Microphone.

- Close and test your TS. Mine stopped echoeing after that.

If you want go back to the Adjust Volume for "Playback" and you can mute the microphone so you don't hear yourself coming out of your speakers.




Hope that works for you.

[dpowles]

Thanks for the replies - the problem is that I don't have the option to select Mic under playback, only record.

dmp

[Chewy]

disable the micraphone 20db boost.

and click the speaker icon under the sound lvl for auxilary ... I have another post about this issue on the forums.