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nicod3mus
27-03-2007, 21:05
I have been a TS advocate for as long as its been around but it's a dark day over here as we uninstalled TS for something with acceptable quality codecs. I began asking for codecs over 2years ago on these boards and every time anyone mentioned it you got "TS3" flamed to death. The codecs were sub par then (2005) and they are barely usable now.

I hate to do it but frankly I have waited as long as I'm going to wait. An optional codec pack was not asking too much regardless of what anyone of the team or fanbois here say. I donated to TS more than once and had links on my sites for years so I'm afraid the "then donate" response won't fly either.

Although I never advocated TS going open source the fact that it isn't also hinders it's development. We would have built a codec pack for TS if we could have been provided the proper information but again, this is did not happen.

If you look at the GSM 44k codec in Vent you might think or its not even twice as good as the speex 25.9k, not true. The GSM codec is a better codec to begin with. At the same bitrate it sounds better so at 44k it sounds (as anyone who have ever used it) much better. Vent's handicap was it's bandwidth amd resource usage. As computers and average Internet connections have improved vastly over the years the strain is no longer even visible to most users so the original reason most people started using TS no longer exists.

In short you dropped the ball and even old school die hards who have integrated tons of apps with TS and ran servers for years are leaving. All the "we are working on it" rhetoric is just that. All you had to do was put out a codec pack......A place that a codec pack (a 44Khz codec at that) takes years to develop sounds like a place I should apply.

BHKai
27-03-2007, 21:41
I think the codecs are perfectly fine. Views change are never the same from person to person.

nicod3mus
27-03-2007, 21:46
The codecs maybe fine for you but they are not for us. The community has been asking for codecs for years it's no secret. Our view has never changed.....silly statement. If you are saying different people need different things then......... uh yeah.......I think that's pretty obvious.

BHKai
28-03-2007, 04:15
The codecs maybe fine for you but they are not for us. The community has been asking for codecs for years it's no secret. Our view has never changed.....silly statement. If you are saying different people need different things then......... uh yeah.......I think that's pretty obvious.

http://forum.goteamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=36555&page=2

HotRod-Lincoln
28-03-2007, 06:36
what wrong with a 25kb/s Speex? Some of us that dont want better quality to cost bandwidth, besides it sounds fine.

Well if you dont like it, then you dont like it. Try skype, some people love it, I think it looks as bad as it sounds, it all a matter of opinion.

Oh btw, TS3 will have wicked new codecs fer ya ;)

Gryphon
28-03-2007, 17:58
The codecs were sub par then (2005) and they are barely usable now.

How can their usability have changed if the codecs have never changed.

An optional codec pack was not asking too much regardless of what anyone of the team or fanbois here say.

If it's not asking to much, whip one out.

In short you dropped the ball and even old school die hards who have integrated tons of apps with TS and ran servers for years are leaving.

Easy for you to type out anonymously on a forum. Are these people reporting directly to you that they are leaving TS? What is your source?

Because someone doesn't share your view, doesn't make them a fanboi. If you want to label people I'll share with you mine, people who use the term fanboi are children looking for a quick out.

Find another product if TS is so barely usable.

nicod3mus
06-04-2007, 19:38
A fanboi is someone who disregards reason and logic to support one side of an argument.

I already stated that if the project was open source a codec could be made and would have been by now easily.....it's obvious that this isn't the case and when making the choice to keep TS out of the open source arena you obligated yourselves to provide the updates the app needs.

I am by no means anonymous....I am the Senior Content Specialist for InfoMedia, Inc. and I manage several gaming sites. Google "nicod3mus" and you can find a million ways to determine exactly who I am.

I was a TS die hard for years and advocated it at every turn and in every argument but if you are trying to convince me that it takes years to dev a couple codecs Im sorry I just don't buy that one.

When I said barely usable I was referring to the other options out there. Years ago the people that wanted to use TS didn't have the bandwidth they do now. The average connection speed is much higher and that opens up new options. I want my users to have the ability to do things like broadcast audio in channels, use better codecs for better quality, and record better quality audio for use in media production.

I already said we are switching voice comm apps in the very first post.

And as far as how I know that people are switching.....well let's see played games forever and with a lot of the same guilds for 5-10 years. Even if that wasn't the case anyone who has looked into the topic knows people are leaving for quality issues.