[TS3] Call for Closed Alpha Testers! [Archive]

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Peter

31-10-2008, 12:40

Hi everybody,

we are currently searching for a few testers to join our closed alpha test-team. At this point we are looking for people using Mac OS X or Linux as their *primary* desktop System. So those of you that are using Windows most of the time, please don't bother to apply, your time will come at a later point (if you apply although you do not match the requirements we might also ignore your applications for further tests, even if you match the profile then :P)

Anyways, please read the requirements closely, and only apply if you meet them, we don't want to sort out our candidates from 1000 useless submissions, that will just waste our time. Thank you :)

Here is the link to the requirement list, and eventually also the apply form. READ IT CAREFULLY:

http://www.teamspeak.com/alpha/

We will leave this thread open for further discussion and also to keep you informed on how the Call for Testers is progressing...please don't spam the thread though, there is still no release date for TS3, we will work hard to get you something to download.

maggy

01-11-2008, 03:35

I'm going to set the over/under for number of people on Windows who apply anyway at 100. Any takers? :P

On a different note, is this client testing only or is this also server testing?

R. Ludwig

01-11-2008, 06:10

only client testing, this will make sure the server gets some load :/

wolfi64

01-11-2008, 13:30

Sweet, applied but did not add a forum account as I had none while applying.
Can't wait for it, glad to see that update :D

ScP

01-11-2008, 19:15

You should have waited seven minutes before applying to reach 1337-o-clock...

:D

napier

03-11-2008, 19:14

You should have waited seven minutes before applying to reach 1337-o-clock...

:D

Lol, I always used to ask people "what's the time?" when it reached 13:37 :p They never noticed :(

What's the average time it takes for a reply to an application at the present time?

Katana*GFR*

03-11-2008, 20:42

I don't think there's a fixed deadline. The application form will be disabled when the devs have found enough qualified testers. Simply submit your data if you think you meet all the requirements.

:)

In the other topic :D

Peter

03-11-2008, 22:26

There have been *no* replies to any application yet, we are still waiting to give everybody a chance to apply, maybe sometime this week we will sift through them and arrange conferences with the promising candidates.

So, as per the form we are in Phase 1 at "Once we have received enough applications" ;). Lots of applications though, when we get time we will continue along the process as mapped out in the form...

napier

04-11-2008, 23:19

Will unsuccessful applicants be informed that they didn't meet the requirements? So that they don't have to keep returning to the forums to bother you :p

Katana*GFR*

05-11-2008, 00:01

no. Those chosen will be notified.. If you didnt got a invitation to round 2 then you're out.

Peter

05-11-2008, 14:01

We will post when we move to Phase 2, before that post is out we are "pooling" your requests to make sure even people that don't frequent these forums every day get a chance to apply, so don't worry if you got no invitation to Phase 2 yet, nobody has (we currently plan to wait annother week or two)

SWIZZ=claus=

07-11-2008, 03:48

Little question, I hope that fits in this thread... Is the first public release going to get released as an Alpha, Beta or RC-build, will we get an already completely finished build or will we be able to watch the progress made until the final build?

Peter

07-11-2008, 08:19

Is the first public release going to get released as an Alpha, Beta or RC-build, will we get an already completely finished build or will we be able to watch the progress made until the final build?

If everything goes as planned the first public build will be the Open Beta, meaning the features themselves should all be available, but some additional testing is required before we pronounce it final.

Volley

12-11-2008, 12:25

At first, when reading this, i was very excited and immediately started to read and fill out the form. But when it come to the details i decided that i won't apply.

I'm a Student, working part time as admin, using Debian unstable (amd64) on my main Desktop and have access to quite a bit of different hardware running mostly 32 and 64 bit versions of Debian or XP. I'd happily help testing.

But since you demand more than usually needed for a job application i won't do that.
Actually i'm wondering - you stopped working on TS2 years ago eaven tough the linux client is next to useless lacking alsa support for anyone not buying a second sound card for just Teamspeak, and now you start looking for alpha testers? So there is no release to expect for another 2-3 years.

I wish you luck, but i'm more than dissapointed.

BHKai

12-11-2008, 21:56

But since you demand more than usually needed for a job application i won't do that.

You work for the mob or something?

They pretty much have everything done. They need people for testing the features and what needs to be changed/added.

http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=43570&page=2

R. Ludwig

13-11-2008, 06:24

now you start looking for alpha testers? So there is no release to expect for another 2-3 years. I wish you luck, but i'm more than dissapointed.

i am sure other companies would release what we got as beta or rc1, maybe even released it already.

Peter

13-11-2008, 11:13

and now you start looking for alpha testers? So there is no release to expect for another 2-3 years.

We have actually had alpha testers for more than 2.5 years! See this devblog entry (http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=blogarchive&ident=20060501) which was posted on May 1st 2006 :). So, according to your estimations of "2-3 years after first alpha testers are recruited release takes place" we are *very* close :P

Volley

16-11-2008, 13:37

Ok, my apologies for the inappropriate flaming.

Don't get me wrong: my bad mood actually isn't exactely because the alpha test or the terms of it. I'm not that impatent to see or use TS3 as i might appear. I'd be perfectly fine with TS2 ... if it would work for me. It's because you stopped maintaining TS2 so long before TS3 is available. But this doesn't belong here.

Back to the testing:

Tough the way you handle some things (very restrictive and closed) go against the grain for me, i do understand your reasons and taking into account the target audience it might eaven be necessary. If not necessary, then at least more safe for you.

I have to admit that i've seen what huge numbers of users that don't provide anything to a project can do if you don't be careful enough. (This however doesn't mean that it's not possible to have a more open development process and still efficiently manage the masses)

So i hope the testing goes well, maybe we see somewhen when you start public tests.

Bealzebub

17-11-2008, 11:44

Non-disclosure agreements are very common in closed alpha and beta testing (that's why it's called "closed"). As a company you don't want information to leak out about an upcoming product, both for marketing (you as the developer want to be the one breaking the news) as for QA purposes. NDAs provide a legal basis to take on a rogue tester if the need arises.

As for the beta testing application form, I'm quite thrilled with the selection procedure. It's clear the company wants to keep this closed Alpha period as short as possible, hence the requirements of at least being able to test a couple of hours a week and know the basics of the platform you are working on. One good tester who can point out problems in a clear way and does quite a bit of testing is more useful than a hundred who just want to see a product before anyone else. The latter belong in an open beta. So yes, I am willing to sign an NDA, fill out the application form and invest some of my precious spare time, so I can get my WoW guild on the open beta version asap. On a side note to a student from someone who has both done and conducted job interviews: although the application form had some requirements, it's nowhere near the scope of a true job application or interview :-).

Teamspeak's main competitor doesn't have alsa support either. In fact, they don't even have a linux client at all. On top of that, they have an extremely restrictive license (7-user free server limit rules out any 10-man and 25-man raid). If you want alsa support and can't wait for a couple more weeks, you can try out Mumble, which is open source and does support alsa. It has some other quirks you'll have to deal with, such as memory leaks, instability and other weird issues, but hey, it does have alsa support, since that seems to be your main gripe with teamspeak.

maggy

18-11-2008, 00:20

What many people don't realize about the TS team is that TS3 is at the bleeding edge of theoretical physics.

They have developed a new form of lag compensation in VOIP which solves a basic problem in internet communications. Instead of trying to implement a difficult-to-explain scheme of interpolation, the new TS3 client actually goes into the future to determine what you are saying before you say it, timing the transmission of that data so that is arrives at the other clients precisely at the moment that you actually start talking, thus bypassing all lag on all clients, seamlessly. This technology took years to develop in total secrecy so the laughable "old-fashioned" TS2 with its "practical networking" was put to the side in the interest in advancing anti-lag time travel.

It runs on linux too. :P

Hope that answered your question? :)

Volley

19-11-2008, 19:57

the new TS3 client actually goes into the future to determine what you are saying before you say it, timing the transmission of that data so that is arrives at the other clients precisely at the moment that you actually start talking, thus bypassing all lag on all clients, seamlessly.

What, that's all?
Damn, and i hoped TS3 would finally come with sense activation, sending only your voice when you say something that acutally makes sense, and muting you when you cough, eat, drink, talk to someone else in the room or say something stupid ...

But didn't you violate the NDA right now?

Thomas

20-11-2008, 00:48

Maggy is currently not in the alpha testing team, so he doesn't ...

P.S.: That's neither a confirmation nor a opposition to maggies post!

DaCaNo

26-11-2008, 02:48

Well everything sounds good... let me know when U need windows testers :D
I can provide server and a bunch of other testers, when the time comes!
3 ppl in Sweden, 1 in Holland, 1 in Israel and about 30 ppl in US and Canada!

Cant weight for the release... or atleast a dedline.. maby a new update... :rolleyes:

Stay safe.
Dacano out!

Peter

26-11-2008, 17:21

We sent out invitations to those people we want to interview during phase 2, sorry for everybody who wasn't invited, we had to boil you down to a manageable number :)

Elradon

26-11-2008, 20:22

When has the team been increased? Just this month, or before?

Thomas

26-11-2008, 23:10

There were several periods in which the alpha team growed up.

But there is still no member, who applied in the public apply form yet.

DaCaNo

27-11-2008, 18:04

We sent out invitations to those people we want to interview during phase 2, sorry for everybody who wasn't invited, we had to boil you down to a manageable number :)

but that was only for MAC and LINUX right??
or have I missed some thread in the forum??

because, Id like to apply if its possible... but Im using the windows OS!
burt if U do have a link where I can apply.. let me know!!

Dacano out!

Thomas

27-11-2008, 22:09

HERE is the link.

But read the requirements first, please.

Peter

28-11-2008, 10:49

but that was only for MAC and LINUX right??

Yes
..............

Hook88

28-11-2008, 17:24

But there is still no member, who applied in the public apply form yet.
You mean that noone of this forum applied to get an alpha tester? :eek:

I would really love to help you testing TS3, but I currently don't use Linux as my primary system because the oss-sound-system just sucks.... Theres no well-working possibility for me to get oss-programs working with alsa, so for example I can't listen to music while using TeamSpeak2....

BHKai

28-11-2008, 17:40

HERE (http://HERE) is the link.

But read the requirements first, please.
I do have to admit that is a good advertisement catch phrase.

http://here/
sends me to
here.com
because of the way that FF handles such address.

Peter

29-11-2008, 08:49

You mean that noone of this forum applied to get an alpha tester?

No, what Thomas ment was that all current testers have been "hand picked", there is currently no alpha tester that applied via the alpha forum. All of those guys are still in evaluation ;)

davidonpda

01-12-2008, 02:25

I may be completely too late for this, I use ubuntu on my laptop, and would love to test this out. I've read the requirements carefully, and should meet them all.

A couple of questions though. The four hours per week, is that at specific times, or when I have the availability to test?

I also have access to multiple networks to test from, like home cable modem, as well as a DS3 with administrative rights for opening ports.

My question, is, is the NDA available for review? I would like to have my attorney look it over before I start thinking that this would be a fun project.

Then of course, am I too late? I tried to read all of these posts, and it sounded like one post referred to that step 1 has been completed already.

Feel free to email me.

m4k-Hurrican

03-12-2008, 21:12

Too late... Alpha registration is closed. :(
A date for OpenBeta testing ? Our clan is using Teamspeex client. It's working quite fine, but some codecs are missing, and so, we sometimes have problems when trying to connect to Windows TS servers...
We really are waiting for this TS3 thing. :p

GrexAut

06-12-2008, 00:14

Elradon

06-12-2008, 00:30

Thats true, but what can we do? I am nearly happy how ts2 is, so why run riot?

smooth

06-12-2008, 18:53

It's awesome to see you guys at this stage...too bad I only checked the forums every few months or I'd have applied to the alpha stage :(

no matter, just looking forward to the next great project!

Katana*GFR*

06-12-2008, 23:03

My question, is, is the NDA available for review? I would like to have my attorney look it over before I start thinking that this would be a fun project.

Why you need that? Intend on breaking it and then saying, he, it doesn't say that in the NDA..

Quite simple, if you sign the NDA you are bound to the German ( or European ) laws. Break it and face the consequences.

Emunator

01-01-2009, 22:25

Happy new year.

Hope it goes to open beta soon, since i didnt get a replie on my application as alpha tester.

lorfirewall

05-01-2009, 11:47

Hey, I know to be ready when the TeamSpeak 3 or beta. Said they would be the end of 2008, but nothing has yet come out: (What date?

TeeKayy

05-01-2009, 13:06

Hey, I know to be ready when the TeamSpeak 3 or beta. Said they would be the end of 2008, but nothing has yet come out: (What date?

There is currently no date!

It's done, when it's done...

lorfirewall

05-01-2009, 13:14

There is currently no date!

It's done, when it's done...

:eek:
OK:(:(:(:(:(:(

maxi1990

08-01-2009, 19:23

Doesnt work?

Do not understand what you mean?

maggy

09-01-2009, 18:49

He must be an alpha tester who got sucked into a fissure in space/time caused by the anti-lag time travel device in TS3 and is now stuck at some indeterminiate point in the near future, trying to post on the forum for help (and a regression patch).

Somebody help this poor man! :)

BHKai

10-01-2009, 01:05

maggy

10-01-2009, 09:19

TeamSpeak 3: robust enough for the most demanding VOIP applications, simple enough for the average user, powerful enough to shred the bonds of space/time and destroy the known universe.™

orDian

10-01-2009, 20:27

Slogan: Wanna get real communication?
Slogan: Crystal Clear Communication, TeamSpeak 3.

maggy

11-01-2009, 01:20

It's almost as if nobody actually reads the threads they are posting to. It's not allowed or something.

willardjuice

01-02-2009, 22:30

I guess it's too late to get in the alpha? :(

BHKai

02-02-2009, 14:17

Unless you have connections.

Emunator

03-02-2009, 13:27

I have internet connections, does that count ?? :D

Katana*GFR*

03-02-2009, 13:45

Almost.. :D

MySelf

03-02-2009, 15:49

Can I join the Alpha test? I have Vista and XP OS.
I would love to join the Project. :D

Cheers by MySelf

ZeroTKA

03-02-2009, 21:44

I have internet connections, does that count ?? :D

I think i read somewhere on the forums that you can get in the alpha test now if you meet the following:

Only if you have superly fantastic internet connections with a twist of lime juice found only in the closet of dreams, then yes.

Emunator

07-02-2009, 22:54

Well i just hope the beta wont take that long to come along then.
I will be nice and wait.

antonio20001

11-02-2009, 23:06

if i can be userful, i'm a Linux user.

MY OS is Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and i can test all the bugs for you! FOR FREE:D:D:D

i'm joking, if i can join the alpha tests call me.

I still have problems with some ts2 codecs...

Katana*GFR*

12-02-2009, 00:35

Testers for Alpha are already picked a while ago.. No need to apply anymore as far as i know..

storek55

14-02-2009, 21:18

It will be cool if dev of ts3 in their blog will post and dates or planing when ts3 will be for test for windows.

Mentlepain

15-02-2009, 18:47

Any idea on when the "Official" release date may be? I first heard about Teamspeak 3 over 3 years ago. First it was anounced to be released in late 2007. Then it was anounced TS3 to be released in early 2008. Then it was pushed back to later 2008. It's 2009 now guys. So should we expect TS3 to be released in late 2009 or early 2010? Either Teampspeak 3 has run into major programming issues or it's really going to blow Ventrillo out of the water. I'm hoping it'll blow Ventrillo out of the water. Nontheless, some sort of progress update would be handy. An "Official" release date would be better though.

If TS3 is running into programming issues, let us know it has. We will understand that the developers are working on the issue to have it corrected before releasing the program to the public. If things are going great and the developers are just putting in the final touches before releasing, all the better. Just give us something.

ZeroTKA

15-02-2009, 19:36

http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=blogarchive&ident=20090213.

then if that doesnt answer your question search for release date. you'll find it.....

storek55

27-02-2009, 19:57

I think before they will release beta for wins there will be year 2010 :D

Kiandra

28-02-2009, 14:12

Is it possible to join the alpha ?

I´m using Mac Os X on an Intel Macbook Pro

Kia

Katana*GFR*

01-03-2009, 00:30

By reading some further you would have seen that the application period is closed for a while.

tazman911

06-03-2009, 23:40

They need to hurry and release the new teamspeak. I am getting tired of using ventrilo or the other new one mohawk. So what is the progress so far on the new ts.

ZeroTKA

07-03-2009, 04:12

......closed alpha......

omega90210

12-03-2009, 08:32

They need to hurry and release the new teamspeak. I am getting tired of using ventrilo or the other new one mohawk. So what is the progress so far on the new ts.

Im sorry would you rather have a laggy crappy unfinished program, (*I start to think of Star Trek Legacy) or would you rather have a beautiful, crystal clear, shiny new teamspeak that will blow your mind away?! Think before you speak, especially in this case. These teamspeak programers are doing all of this to give the public TS3 ENTIRELY FREE!!! Be patient. God knows you arent the only one anxious to have TS3. Geesh...

tazman911

17-03-2009, 00:55

Im sorry would you rather have a laggy crappy unfinished program, or would you rather have a beautiful, crystal clear, shiny new teamspeak that will blow your mind away?! These teamspeak programers are doing all of this to give the public TS3 ENTIRELY FREE!!! Be patient. God knows you arent the only one anxious to have TS3. Geesh...

For the first part. Every program that is written and put out is laggy, crappy and unfinished, that is why they all require patches. You will get better response from the general community when it comes to problems then you will from a handfull of beta tester, I for one have beta tested many games and noticed that the beta testers cannot find every little problem there is with it. That is how many companies are able to keep the products up to date.
As for crystal clear, shiny new teampeak. Of course, we all would like that, but how long has this been in development and they are only allowing so many people in to help with the testing.
Finally, your last response, TEAMSPEAK IS NOT FREE!! If you have a very high end internet connection and a second computer to keep ts running all the time, then yes it is free, other than that, you must pay a provider for the teamspeak that you use.

R. Ludwig

17-03-2009, 10:42

Finally, your last response, TEAMSPEAK IS NOT FREE!! If you have a very high end internet connection and a second computer to keep ts running all the time, then yes it is free, other than that, you must pay a provider for the teamspeak that you use.

interesting argumentation... i feel sorry for you.

Katana*GFR*

17-03-2009, 11:20

Got to agree with Ludwig..

As far as i know there are many free servers on the serverlist.. And TS itself hosts a bigass server which people can use...

There's enough free options if you only cared to look a bit further then your own situation..

I run my own TS server on my dedicated server.. Still haven't seen any bill or block from TS.. Oyeah, im below 1000 slots totaled over max 10v-servers...
So what am i paying for TS, none to nothing..
Only some costs for my dedicated, but hey, i need that server, why not use it for TS then also?

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@remarkablekj please dont use copy/past and cook u own things...
FYI PEBKAC

greets BOFH

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hmm nunja, nachdem der über mir gelöscht wurde, könnt ihr den hier auch gleich wieder deleten.

BHKai

17-03-2009, 21:02

Anyone else having trouble understanding why null posted that?

/dev/null/

18-03-2009, 00:11

Anyone else having trouble understanding why null posted that?

There was a Post from the User "remarkablekj"
either it deleted it or was deleted it, i dont know...

there have post a link whit this exploit and I informed community about it

BHKai

18-03-2009, 00:24

Post much have been deleted. It seemed to come from left field.

R. Ludwig

18-03-2009, 07:39

sorry but i mass deleted this crap posts + the vaporbrain guy who posted it

mavmike

31-03-2009, 20:09

Hook88

31-03-2009, 20:23

You could choose a lower Voice-Codec. This will lower the needed bandwidth ;)

Bealzebub

01-04-2009, 10:16

For the first part. Every program that is written and put out is laggy, crappy and unfinished, that is why they all require patches. You will get better response from the general community when it comes to problems then you will from a handfull of beta tester, I for one have beta tested many games and noticed that the beta testers cannot find every little problem there is with it. That is how many companies are able to keep the products up to date.

So you feel it's normal that every game or application released is going to be an unfinished and mediocre product? Clearly you don't have a clue on how the software business works. Game developers have to take their publishers into account, and publishers are already spending a lot of money on marketing before the game is finished. Any delays in the release is basically flushing money down the drain for that publisher, so as long as the game mostly works, they will release it at the official release date. Blizzard used to be different, they didn't release until they really felt their game was ready. There were some bugs, but no major flaws. Rushed releases will do a company more harm than good, simple.

Teamspeak has chosen to go for a public beta release that's solid, that's admirable to say the least. Do they have an audience anxiously waiting to see what's coming? Of course they do. Should they release a beta that disappoints? Of course they shouldn't.

As for crystal clear, shiny new teampeak. Of course, we all would like that, but how long has this been in development and they are only allowing so many people in to help with the testing.

Alpha and beta testing with a small group of testers is actually a lot more efficient than public beta testing. In closed testing, you have a small group of people trying to focus on reproducable major (or minor) bugs in the application and they will be able to give clear feedback to the developers. You don't have to deal with 100 different explanations, most of them just guesses, about why something went wrong. Getting a QT-based frontend (because I'm guessing that's what they are using) running flawlessly on three platforms is a really hard job, and you want to make the experience enjoyable for everyone.

You can compare public beta testing like standing on a stage with 50.000 people in front of you answering the question: "What do you think of our product?". Try and find the actual relevant answers in that group. Public beta testing will get the last small errors out, but a public beta stage should be as short as possible. If there's too many bugs in a beta stage, developers are spending more time going through bug reports than actually having time to fix them.

In conclusion, just do like I do, subscribe to their newsfeeds, check them once an day and hope one day you'll see that the public beta is available.

Bealzebub

01-04-2009, 10:26

I'm expecting a large increase of resources: cpu, memory and bandwidth for each teamspeak 3 server (compared to current teamspeak 2 server clients).

This is going to make it more difficult for the average person to host themselves, especially if the upload bandwidth requirement is higher. Dedicated Servers are going to be needed for the majority of Teamspeak 3 servers, unless you only want a few people.

With the addition of "ultraband" and file sharing the dedicated servers will be wanted more

The high bandwidth feature is an option, not a requirement. You'll still have the same bandwidth options you had in TS2. Hosting TS on your home computer was never meant to host hundreds of users and file transfer on a home connection is a bad idea, turn it off. It's not because the extra feature is there, you should enable it if your connection can't handle broadcasting it.

Also, don't forget everything has evolved over the years: computers, home internet connections, the codecs themselves. For all we know, having a highly optimized C++ based server can actually be less resource-demanding than the old Delphi based one.

We can guess all we want, we won't be able to say until the product is actually released.

maggy

02-04-2009, 05:53

Ah, finally, a voice of reason.

You will certainly be defamed / argued with in 3... 2...

explezite

09-04-2009, 12:52

They need to hurry and release the new teamspeak. I am getting tired of using ventrilo or the other new one mohawk. So what is the progress so far on the new ts.

No one need to hurry up with the Release of TS3, Note that the Team don't want to release Software with many Bugs. Bugs can also damage your PC Components or fully itself, the whole Team is currently working on Detecting and Fixing Bugs.
If No one has noticed TS3 is coming soon, you won't be waiting for it.. you know what i mean? :D

Greets :)

MaroCZ

11-04-2009, 16:20

No one need to hurry up with the Release of TS3, Note that the Team don't want to release Software with many Bugs. Bugs can also damage your PC Components or fully itself, the whole Team is currently working on Detecting and Fixing Bugs.
If No one has noticed TS3 is coming soon, you won't be waiting for it.. you know what i mean? :D

Greets :)

But the issue it could be published (unless I overlooked it somewhere, so sorry:)) We have Ventrilo and are waiting for the release of TS3. Every day, check site:-D and the still pending. Most errors are found by using the same TS3!

Sorry for my english:)

ANR Daemon

12-04-2009, 06:12

Here's what's going on: they feeding us with tomorrow morning meals for two years at least. Many programs has been released 3 times so far, some of them more, much more complex than simple 1-job client-server application.
Me, personally, tired and exhausted from waiting. And we're about to buy Ventrilo license just to stop this useless waiting. TS2 is good and free, but it's limited channel structure and permissions system is like 100,000km far from our minimum requirements.
(Note: the length of equator is just a bit over 40,000km)

Bealzebub

13-04-2009, 13:15

And we're about to buy Ventrilo license just to stop this useless waiting. TS2 is good and free, but it's limited channel structure and permissions system is like 100,000km far from our minimum requirements.

I really doubt you'll buy one Ventrilo license, simple because the Ventrilo site states: "We do not license individuals or businesses who wish only to run one or two standalone servers. In these cases you will need to rent a server from one of our official licensees on the hosting page"

The company I work for probably has the amount of dedicated servers that are needed to even receive a quote for Vent, still I would never consider recommending it if we ever were to do VoIP hosting. I simply won't give in to a company that sets requirements (even future ones) before they will even be willing to tell me how much their software actually costs.

Also, if your requirements are so much higher than TS2, I don't see how Vent would ever be able to satisfy you, since they actually have very little more than TS to offer. And their client looks like crap, operates like crap and their Linux client has been "in development" for about as long as there's been word about TS3. Also, the last Vent update was at the end of 2007, you can hardly call that a quick release cycle can you?

My guess is you're considering renting a few slots from one of the Vent hosting companies, good luck with that. A monthly $15-$35 bill just for the sake of having some VoIP for a hobby (mine's WoW btw) is just over the top. TS's license at least allows my guild to have decent VoIP for free and although a few new gizmos would make the experience better, we have no problem whatsoever with TS2 for now, except for the occasional member that can't get the microphone volume up high enough to be audible.

I really have to admire the way Teamspeak is trying to make money off their hard work, targetting game developers with their SDK instead of end users (through Vent hosting companies).

Kaltsu

13-04-2009, 19:53

May I ask what is the status of the closed Alpha testing?
Can the closed Windows Alpha testers recruiting be expected to start soon?

ZeroTKA

13-04-2009, 20:18

http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=44373

application for alpha testing has been closed for awhile. The alpha testers, along with the devs, have been hard at work patching and what not to prepare for the beta.

panaut0lordv

13-04-2009, 20:28

Hello,
I'm linux user and main admin of game server + server core developer.

I'm using TS2 as for know, but i want my tool be more flexible... so I want to test TS3 and maybe give some ideas/bug reports to you :)

Unfortunately, alpha registration is closed... any exceptions or should I wait for next stage of testing?

Emunator

21-04-2009, 18:33

Just wait like the rest of us.

x-trim

24-04-2009, 09:03

Really in TS3 so it is a lot of errors, what the project is only on Alpha testing? Why already there are games on TeamSpeak 3 SDK? There there are less than errors or you have simply decided to earn additionally? All the clod will want to be seen TeamSpeak 3 SDK it is necessary to be registered in these games :D

Sorry for my english;)

maxi1990

24-04-2009, 11:58

Maybe it's simply not ready to be released yet?

lorfirewall

26-04-2009, 12:28

I believe that she is not by the errors. I believe that the TS3 already is finished, which happens is that they kieren that the companies of contracts them to games to get up it to its games to be able to speak, and thus to make money.
Like for example in america´s army 3, it says that ts3 will be incorporated, but still they do not have it finished….

This is my opinion, attempt not to offend anybody.

BHKai

27-04-2009, 00:15

Wartek

30-04-2009, 13:03

I just hope TS3 is going to be a success too many People switching to Vent

ztech

02-05-2009, 19:50

storek55

10-05-2009, 16:29

i agree with ztech. U making this realy long. Just post OFFICLA date of release or somthing.

maxi1990

10-05-2009, 18:03

ztech considers microsoft as the standard of development and you agree with him. this fact disqualifies both of you :p

ZeroTKA

10-05-2009, 18:18

i agree with ztech. U making this realy long. Just post OFFICLA date of release or somthing.
ah come on guys, you have already taken more time to develop ts3 than MS to code an entire os!!!

and we all know even if you spend 2 more years it will still need patches to be acceptable....

sorry for my behave but i'm done with all the mysql/ts2perlmod to have something nice from ts2...

Really? The official date has been released for months and maybe even a year or two (maybe longer). My quote might be wrong but i think it's something like "When it's done." I'm pretty sure that's the official release date.

Although i admire that you're attempting something, if you would search the forums you would see that many people have said the same thing and thus making your attempt, a failure, to move the process along any faster or get a different answer. Try something new and creative and you indeed might get a different answer. If it's your lucky day you might even get one from the devs. I'm almost positive they check these forums on a fairly regular basis.

Until then you're just raising my post count, cluttering the forums, and even sometimes lowering my reputation. Sometimes posts like those can provide a slight chuckle for myself in your logic and overuse of characters such as !'s and z's. It makes me believe that you use that many in hopes that it adds more emphasis and somehow is supposed to make me feel sorry for you and breakdown to your demands. Instead it provides the opposite effect and it makes me not want to reply to you at all. When people do give you the answer you go into a fit of rage because it's not the answer that you want or like--even though that it's the answer to the question. You expect us to give you a different answer to 2+2=? other then 4. We even give you the answer in many shapes and forms such as 2^2.

It's like your an inverse tangent function trying to find the answer on the asymptote--you'll never get there. We tell you there is no exact date. Then you ( general republic ) will engage with us ( loosely speaking, the 'regulars' ) in unpleasantries that's best left to poorly written soap operas that air at 2 in the morning--on the radio. All that because you refuse to +/- Pi/2 to your equation to get to the answer in the correct domain. This usually ends up in you leaving never to return to the forums again.

Many more will come after you, as many have before, as if you are the chinese population walking past us one by one reproducing along the way and never stopping to enjoy something that's free. You don't know why you're in the line and neither do i. You sometimes threaten to leave the line and join the skype line or ventrillo line because their lines are double spaced or their margins are increased. Whatever line you chose to be in, it's not going to change the answer that was given.

Sometimes you (being the general public) are just trying to troll and in which case i wonder why. There are much better places in terms of number of people and quickness of reply. Go to any religious site with a forum or any facebook group. The active population of those are most likely to exceed the forums here and thus giving you a better sense of accomplishment and pleasure.

And just as a little tid bit, your argument, ztech, about comparing coding an OS and TS3, is not good. Although it sounds nice, it's kind of like comparing the time it takes me and a friend to build a house vs. an entire company to build a house. Of course the company is going to win and even that within itself is flawed.

Dayofswords

11-05-2009, 18:11

^Burn!

anyways, ts3, out when its out, cant wait =p

ztech

11-05-2009, 23:47

@ZeroTKA ... what can i said?...nothing seems better

@ts3 developpers team ...release it before i get old! :)

webhostbudd

16-05-2009, 01:11

^Burn!

anyways, ts3, out when its out, cant wait =p
Same, I'm sick of the latency issues TS2 has. Honestly, If anyone is looking for a good solution until TS3 is out, I would seriously suggest mumble. The interface is not nearly as complicated or cluttered as Teamspeak or Ventrilo, but the sound quality and latency is very good. It also fits in well if you are running a linux box, mainly because Teamspeak 2 is a somewhat out of date server and Ventrilo merely doesn't run on anything but Windows. I really can't wait to see how Teamspeak integrates with mysql, because I've written numerous php scripts to integrate my web server with my voice server. All in all though, Teamspeak definitely has the best interface among voip solutions, and I would like to see the infrastructure of Teamspeak 3 surpass that of Ventrilo and mumble.

Devs, any way we can still get a linux binary or source code just to test with, or is the next step an open beta anyway?

EDIT: Another dev question, is TS3 going to support pulseaudio on linux?

PeterS

20-05-2009, 11:47

> Another dev question, is TS3 going to support pulseaudio on linux?

Pulseaudio is supported. The current TS3 client runs fine on Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 using pulseaudio.

bigbadjames

17-06-2009, 14:37

ok, so comparing it to MS wasnt good, but ya know, comparing it to ventrilo development is more compatible. yet they seem to have a new version, with the newer speex codecs out already.
However, i don't personally like vent, i have in the past preferred teamspeak due to its UI.

Alas I grew tired of waiting for TS3 and listening to my clan say how much better vent sounded if it only had a better interface like TS.

So, i solved the problem, I dumped teamspeak, turned my nose at vent and wrote my own voip using the latest speex codecs, and now our gaming clan is happy because we have something useful that everyone likes and it contains the features we want.
Gee, I wish i had a whole dev team to work with, I coulda done it in 2 weeks instead of 2 months. Oh well.

Enjoy the wait folks, Windows 8 and ventrilo 6 might be out before you get TS3 !!

Ridd1ck

18-06-2009, 10:53

I hate to make this my first post, but I have been dropping by this site for years now and I can't believe the how long ts3 has been in development.

Not being a programmer myself I agree that no new release should be rushed (ie. FFOW). However this ts3 saga is almost like the duke nukem story.

I have no idea what ts3 currently needs to sort out before an official release is announced however what I do know is as long as the attitude is 'when it comes out', why would anyone feel compelled to want to remain loyal to a package that is inferior and is backed by dev's that appear dismissive of those that support them in the community.

I agree with bigbadjames, and I didn't find his commentry as bait, but I viewed them as more of a plea. I would have said much of the same, like apparently so many others have as well.

As for your hero comments ZeroTKA, you sound like the fail supporters of FFOW. Stop pretending, drop your the cape cruisade, cus dude you really suck at it.

Either way our clan also has been forced to move to vent after using Teamspeak for almost 3 years. I was disappointed, however, at the end of the day, intel s$%ts on amd cus they worked harder to bring the best. I hope ts3 hits hard like the athlons did for amd.

ZeroTKA

18-06-2009, 19:57

I've been waiting for all these years just like everyone else. I feel almost exactly the same as everyone else who asks about TS3. The only difference between us is i've accepted the answers of the devs. It's all been answered before and there's nothing i can do to change the answer they give, so why bother trying? There really isn't anything to do but wait.

I do not know what FFOW is.

xXxexpertxXx

19-06-2009, 19:23

ah come on guys, you have already taken more time to develop ts3 than MS to code an entire os!!!

and we all know even if you spend 2 more years it will still need patches to be acceptable....

sorry for my behave but i'm done with all the mysql/ts2perlmod to have something nice from ts2...

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

People are funny..

Microsoft OS - multiple and multiple people (like 100+)working daily.

Teamspeak - LOL like 1? or a few LOL

Cant compare it to with MS.

storek55

20-06-2009, 15:24

I still like this sentence in their dev blog.

There is no official release date set for TeamSpeak 3 at this time, however, we are aiming for a release sometime in early to mid 2006.

Huh we are in 2009 xD

Tomas

20-06-2009, 16:34

my usuall quote "shit happends"

they do time travel for sure!! the time machine in windows is in control panel date and time. now you can release it even at year 2000 !

jokes aside well yea time passes fast indeed.
the bad thing about take-ing some deadlines is usually that you might not be done as you wished for at that deadline time.

Bealzebub

21-06-2009, 15:54

There comes a time in software development where one realizes that building on old foundations is a dead end and every developer has this urge to build something that sets a new standard for your product segment. There comes a time when u just have to bite the bullet and say goodbye to what you had, in TS's case Delphi.

Looking at VoIP apps, there isn't anything out there that really gets it just right out there.
Teamspeak was pretty revolutionary when it was first released. No one cared that it was written in Delphi and back then, it really did the job quite nicely.
Ventrilo has better noise reduction, latency and a number of extra features. But let's be honest, is it really that much better? They claim multi-platform support, have you tried the Mac version (that's not even half of what I would consider multi-platform support, GSM codec anyone)?And when you look at the licensing scheme, is it even worthwhile considering?
Mumble is really feature rich and it's open source, free to use and does have decent multi-platform support. Latency and voice quality, as well as 3D sound positioning (even though that only works on Windows), are quite well implemented too. Where it falls flat down on its face however, is when you actually try and set it up. Not only for rights management and administration is it a pain, but even for normal end-users it's quite daunting to get the client up and running. I wouldn't want to ask my fellow non-computer-literate WoW guildies to install Mumble and set it up, they couldn't do it.

And from the sneak peeks we had into TS3's features, it looks like we can have the best from both worlds:

multi-platform support, with no half implemented features on certain OSes
feature set up to par with Mumble
better latency
easy to configure
a license that allows non-profit users to use the software too

And as long as the competition doesn't release something that endangers Teamspeak in such a way that a product release is needed, I see no reason why Teamspeak can't use their SDK licensing efforts to fund a rock stable and amazing standalone client.

I'm really looking forward to its release and almost every day, I'm hoping to see TS3's release on their website. I'm like a little kid waiting to get his hands on an amazing new toy, but I don't want it to break right away, so I've learned to be patient... for quite some time now... and I'll stay patient for quite some time to come if needed.

Tomas

22-06-2009, 10:15

lol but agreed

EDIT 2 tazman911
there is misstypo !
wrote: "There is no official release date set for TeamSpeak 3 at this time, however, we are aiming for a release sometime in early to mid 2016."
:DD j/k

tazman911

27-06-2009, 13:39

From what I have read in the forums, it does not appear that ts3 is going to be released anytime soon. The fact is, it kind of looks as if they are trying to make some money with ts3 by having it implemented in some the of the new games coming out. I understand this part of a business. Got to get something for the hard work they have put into this. My only question is?

Developer Blog & TeamSpeak 3 Progress
by Peter Kirk on Dec 5, 2005

wrote: "There is no official release date set for TeamSpeak 3 at this time, however, we are aiming for a release sometime in early to mid 2006."

What happened to this release date of ts3?

Will we see ts3 this year or are we going to have to wait for almost another 4yrs for it to be released?

pandaman

03-07-2009, 18:24

I have 15 servers and I run ts2 I also have been looking at Mohawk voice for I am thinking of going over to them. I don't want to but you guys Just don't seem to care about us gamers to get ts3 out to us. i think your worried about how much you can make on using it with new games comming out. I think If everyone knew how nice the new ts3 was going to be (While testing it with you as a client and the server side) they would know how nice it was going to be with the new game that they were thinking of purchasing. Let us tell you what we like about it not sell it to eagames or activision ect. ect. Let us the public tell you what we like about it. The dev. teams don't have a clue let us the ones that use it 8 hours aday tell you what we like or don't like about it. We are the ones that will help[ you out we are the ones that are going to go out and buy that new game because it comes with teamspeak 3 build into it. Because we were using it and liked it. I look at what these new games are using for a voice comm. and if it's going to be using a program that I alsready like and know how to use I am going to bye that before some other silly game that you have problems with communicating on. Have a nice day and lets think about us. Mohawk looks better every day because there out there tring. Thinking of us little guys that play these games with out us you have nothing you can build all the games and if you keep us waiting to long we the public will seek others Like Mohawk voice servers to do the job for us. thanks Kelly

Solamar

07-07-2009, 06:23

I suspect it's an april fools joke from 2005.. Someone just forgot to mention it and now they're seeing how long they can keep it up. :p

Sawgore

10-07-2009, 13:36

Hello,

Is it possible to test TeamSpeak 3 ? i'm a mac user and i use all day teamspeex but i'm aslo an admin but teampspeex is restricted :(

It's with pleasure that i will test the version 3

(sorry for my english, i'm french)

Bealzebub

10-07-2009, 16:17

No, TS3 is still in closed beta, you'll have to wait until the beta is opened up.

In what way do you consider Teamspeex restricted btw? All admin functions of TS can be done through the web interface, and I haven't had any problems doing whatsoever with Teamspeex. The only little annoyance I have is that private messages don't show the person it's coming from, but apart from that, everything works just fine.

In fact, I think I might even like Teamspeex a bit more than the actual Teamspeak 3 client if it looks like the screenshots that were posted a while ago. Teamspeex was a real Objective-C application, not relying on any crossplatform GUI framework such as QT or wxWidgets and that's quite obvious: it looks like a Mac application, it's small, starts up in a breeze. To be honest, the only way to make a Mac application look, feel and behave as a Mac application, is by designing the interface using Interface Builder, tie it together with any underlying SDK in XCode.

The disadvantage in terms of development is that you actually have to maintain two codebases for part of your application. Not that it can't be done, we are using git submodules to share certain code between two development environments.

I'd like to be surprised, but I'm expecting the Teamspeak 3 client to have the same symptoms as Mumble for example (which uses QT for it's GUI), i.e. being fully (or almost fully) functional across platforms, but looking crap and out of place on MacOS X.

That said, for an application like Teamspeak I guess the user interface being usable is all that matters, since it will mostly be hidden by an OpenGL overlay anyway.

Ridd1ck

11-07-2009, 04:39

The bottom line is if the dev's here at ts were frank and transparent, this thread wouldn't have been derailed.

I say good on you pandaman for looking elsewhere as this site is dead.

@Beazelbub, you have to be kidding yourself if you think that cus of the features ts3 dribble on about, that it is going to make it more popular and successful.
You have nfi when it will be released, so don't pretend that its just around the corner. TS3's competitors are gonna be hot on there tail. I really can't see TS3 be revolutionary at all, half of the features TS3 boast about has been advertised for bloody ages.

A reminder: if the release is a joke with features that only half work, you can forget it, I still take vent over ts3 rubbish. And don't kid yourself either by claiming that, that is why there is an alpha closed and beta open release.

I would pay for ts3 if it was good. So take note dev's if you truly believe you have struck a gold mine with your ts3 masterpiece, then I dare you to start chargin'.

But alas the dev's will grow old while fumbling with their receipts for duke nukem forever rocking themselves in a corner before they dare announce a release date.

the bad thing about take-ing some deadlines is usually that you might not be done as you wished for at that deadline time.

WOW you couldn't have wasted a sentence any harder than that.

Deadlines are shifted all the time, I don't think the ts community would have cared as long as there was an attempt at stating one.

Bring on Mohawk and even mumble, I'll back any dev team that isn't afraid to get the product out there as long as they are community focused, and show genuine intentions of improving the product. Hey I'll even pay for that!!

ZeroTKA

11-07-2009, 21:10

A reminder: if the release is a joke with features that only half work, you can forget it, I still take vent over ts3 rubbish. And don't kid yourself either by claiming that, that is why there is an alpha closed and beta open release.

i do believe solomar wasn't serious . Hence the ':p'

Deadlines are shifted all the time, I don't think the ts community would have cared as long as there was an attempt at stating one.

you can't genuinely believe that if you take a moment and think about what you said.

tbarlow

11-07-2009, 21:27

tbarlow

11-07-2009, 21:29

Ridd1ck

12-07-2009, 09:29

i do believe solomar wasn't serious . Hence the ':p'

sigh, l2quote, I was not referring to solomar, I was referring to Beazle, gj.

Deadlines are shifted all the time, I don't think the ts community would have cared as long as there was an attempt at stating one.

you can't genuinely believe that if you take a moment and think about what you said.

Err, I suggest YOU have a think about it for a moment.

Q: What well know application gets released on the first announcement of a deadline?

A: Not many, most say some quarter in a year and many still go over it, but then again many state why it has been released and usually re-announce a new date.

TS3 on the other hand, state some release date 2 years ago, and still no word.
Do me a fav ZeroTKA, bat for a side with at least something worth standing for.

ZeroTKA

12-07-2009, 10:53

sigh, l2quote, I was not referring to solomar, I was referring to Beazle, gj.

You should probably make a quote of beazle saying it. You said @beazle so i went to his previous post that he made on 7-10, read it and then read yours. There is no mention of 'release' in beazles post. So i went a post down to see where your rant came from. Nothing from sawgore either. So i go to the next one down and there it was, in solomar's post, mentioning of the release. You can't expect me to read your mind and know that you meant beazles post on 6-21 instead of 7-10.

Err, I suggest YOU have a think about it for a moment.

Q: What well know application gets released on the first announcement of a deadline?

A: Not many, most say some quarter in a year and many still go over it, but then again many state why it has been released and usually re-announce a new date.

TS3 on the other hand, state some release date 2 years ago, and still no word.
Do me a fav ZeroTKA, bat for a side with at least something worth standing for.

You contradicted yourself. First you mention that they need to have stated a release date, and then you say they did.
Deadlines are shifted all the time, I don't think the ts community would have cared as long as there was an attempt at stating one.
]TS3 on the other hand, state some release date 2 years ago, and still no word.

If we forget the contradiction and take it for what it is, then you have defeated yourself anyway. Just read the forums. Part of the community is upset and there are/was a release date(s). Go check out previous posts in this topic. Many people are upset when a release date is not met. Starcraft 2? H.A.W.X? Duke Nuke'm ? Even after a reason is given for why, half may be understanding and the other half is still angry.

Release dates are very much a big deal.

And there has been word of why it's taken this long.

I'll do you that favor.

Ridd1ck

12-07-2009, 12:47

You should probably make a quote of beazle saying it. You said @beazle so i went to his previous post that he made on 7-10, read it and then read yours.

I'll stop you there, I said '@beazle' which included everything below cus I didn't mention anyone else until the next quote. clue up.

You contradicted yourself. First you mention that they need to have stated a release date, and then you say they did.

Your not quirky or witty dude, a release date mentioned 2 years ago is hardly worthy of you noting it, other than to highlight that it was unrealistic.

If we forget the contradiction and take it for what it is, then you have defeated yourself anyway.

There is no contradiction just you being anal.

Just read the forums. Part of the community is upset and there are/was a release date(s). Go check out previous posts in this topic. Many people are upset when a release date is not met. Starcraft 2? H.A.W.X? Duke Nuke'm ? Even after a reason is given for why, half may be understanding and the other half is still angry.

Release dates are very much a big deal.

And there has been word of why it's taken this long.

I'll do you that favor.

You failed to recognise that the point is that starcraft 2 have stated many times what is delaying the release. Also its a game that will be played competitively at a very high level, hardly worth comparing to ts3.

Frontlines Fuel of War was actually released it in a bad shape but worked hard to keep the community aware of what they were doing, and many thanked them for it, and its what saved the game.

All this is about being community aware, thats all Zero, but explaining that point to you will only fall short due to you being stuck in your own little world.

The deadlines are guides, most understand this Zero, and those that would still get angry if ts3 did announce a new release date, and they break it, can't be helped, at least ts3 can say they were transparent and frank.

The deadlines are only as big as the title, TS3 is nowhere near the league of SC2.

I think TS3 community have been pretty sympathetic really. Its been 2 years after the fail deadline, I don't see how announcing a deadline now would hurt ts3, the damage is already done, they have you Zero in their corner, enuff said.

I want to see ts3 succeed, and I would be willing to pay for it, if the price was right and there was promised support of it.

Don't get it twisted Zero, the fact is people have mentioned before that they'd pay to have the privledge of using ts3, no one expects something for nothing. BUt the community does deserve to know how they can help get behind ts3 even if it means paying for it. Hey it could have meant a few less years of waiting, oh darn I don't say.

Anora

15-07-2009, 00:11

I would be interested

ZeroTKA

15-07-2009, 08:08

As far as i know signing up for alpha is closed and already squared away. Depending on what you believe in, the next shot is probably the beta.

pyro1

24-07-2009, 01:39

is there a status update, on this?

Rabe85

24-07-2009, 16:51

A status from the call for closed alpha testers? Sure.

signing up for alpha is closed

ZeroTKA

26-07-2009, 10:26

is there a status update, on this?

as in?

I don't understand what you're looking for. I imagine from the time the alpha testers have gotten there hands on it they've been reporting bugs and the devs have been fixing them and getting it ready for the beta. But i don't think that's what you're looking for at all.

tazman911

28-07-2009, 00:25

I think what he is looking for, is how much longer before this thing is released. Either as a open beta or the real deal.

GoldenHawk

31-07-2009, 22:12

maybe they want to wait for the vapor ware awards ^^

R. Ludwig

01-08-2009, 04:44

maybe they want to wait for the vapor ware awards ^^

we should start to give out vapor brain titles here..

GoldenHawk

01-08-2009, 07:38

lack of humour would qualify for that as well :cool: (note: i didnt get personal in my post)

R. Ludwig

01-08-2009, 07:52

lack of humour would qualify for that as well :cool: (note: i didnt get personal in my post)

you qualified for that also

maggy

02-08-2009, 01:34

Why should they have any sense of humor when the conspiracy theorists on this board seem to think that they are leading some sort of massive scam to convince the world that they are developing something that doesn't exist?

At some point you would throw up your hands and just say that all these people are morons and not bother trying to talk to them any more.

XainGM

03-08-2009, 19:07

Nappy

03-08-2009, 22:42

maggy

03-08-2009, 23:13

DNF team did this. What makes you think this team wont either?

Ummm, because TS has a working product that is currently being licensed to game manufacturers?

Don't let facts get in the way of your wild hysterics.

tazman911

08-08-2009, 18:23

Ummm, because TS has a working product that is currently being licensed to game manufacturers?

Don't let facts get in the way of your wild hysterics.

You are right. If they can put TS3 in games, then that tells me that this product is done. You don't put a buggy product in a game that a company has put alot of money into. Come on, release it already.

ZeroTKA

08-08-2009, 21:00

a product in a game =/= (does not equal) a finished product.

In the meantime while we wait, have a pleasant read of some people who visited TS3 and their impressions.

http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=45640

XainGM

09-08-2009, 21:34

Ummm, because TS has a working product that is currently being licensed to game manufacturers?

Don't let facts get in the way of your wild hysterics.

If "TS has a working product" then what do you think is taking them so damn long to make a simple GUI? 5 Years now.... July 1st 2008 was when "Vendetta Online" was announced to be using ts3. That means they have been working on the GUI alone for more than a year.. If you think they are continuing to work on the SDK and core with those manufactures still, and have not invested more than a year in the GUI, then we can officially say they do not have a "working product" for any game manufactures.

I think the TS3 fan boy here has a nasty case of hysteria, not I.

maggy

09-08-2009, 23:51

XainGM

10-08-2009, 21:01

Maybe you should do a little reading (http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=teamspeak3). TS3 will not have just "a simple GUI".

Unless the VOIP in VO and AA3 is a mysterious non-product conspiracy, then yes, it is a working product.

Who ever started this "non-product conspiracy" crap is in idiot. No one said that the product doesn't exist. I believe the majority of people are saying it's going to be a long time before this product gets released if -ever- (vaporware). DNF is a perfect example. The product exists, but was never finished and never released. So in the consumers eyes, it's nothing more than vaporware.

So if this "working product" has been "working" for more than a year now, then your claiming they been working on the GUI since then... You are a true TS3 fan boy aren't ya? And yes, a GUI is very simple compared to setting up a SDK with a nice API.

ScP

11-08-2009, 01:33

No one said that the product doesn't exist.Well, some people did...

:D

Ridd1ck

21-08-2009, 11:36

Who ever started this "non-product conspiracy" crap is in idiot. No one said that the product doesn't exist. I believe the majority of people are saying it's going to be a long time before this product gets released if -ever- (vaporware). DNF is a perfect example. The product exists, but was never finished and never released. So in the consumers eyes, it's nothing more than vaporware.

So if this "working product" has been "working" for more than a year now, then your claiming they been working on the GUI since then... You are a true TS3 fan boy aren't ya? And yes, a GUI is very simple compared to setting up a SDK with a nice API.

Well said. This ain't no witch hunt, its more of a plea. People want to believe that TS3 is going to be released, and want to feel like there is things they can contribute to, to help the TS crew get it out there.

When I first read the forums about ts3 upcoming release like almost 2 years ago, it was said it was being delayed as it was being tested inhouse and in games. Now I took that as a good move to make some money off the product. However now all the delays just appear as stalling, and everything said about it no-one actually believes anymore.

I can't help but think the way things are being handled over ts3, its hard to feel confident that it will be released and well received.

Xain makes a really good point, of course the consumer is going to suspect ts3 as vaporware, who the hell here can tell them otherwise.

I don't believe that because ts3 was used ingames makes it a working product.

Please ts3 dev guys, prove me wrong. Hey what about actually updating this thread with some real news, instead of vague, ambigious bs.
Now that's hysteria.

PeterS

21-08-2009, 11:51

There were some users from this forum visiting the TeamSpeak Systems office two weeks ago, who were offered to test the current version of TeamSpeak 3 to receive an impression of its current state. I doubt they are considering it vaporware.

Their report is here: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=45640

I am aware not everyone checks the German forums. Perhaps we can convince them to rewrite their report in English and post it in the English section of this forum as well. I suppose their report might interest our English-speaking community, too.

Ridd1ck

21-08-2009, 12:01

A Babelfish translation-

Cobra wrote-

I and 3 other people were allowed today to TeamSpeak of system to drive and TeamSpeak apart 3 look at and take. Here that for the time being “small” report from my side.

Over 8:40 we were fetched at the hotel and were then to walk, i.e. to the head office of TeamSpeak of system.

After we had arrived, everyone had gotten a PC (Windows Vista, Linux and Mac OS) and we was allowed TeamSpeak 3 to test.

First impression was, which is ingenious it super, there one now no Login data more custom! The Quallität of the speech transmission was also very well and the delay enormously small. There are a great many attitude possibilities to adapt now around its Client. One can with few for experience own “Skins” make and so its Client in such a way adapt, as one would like it.

The alpha version, which we were allowed to test, ran much stable (generally speaking testing time area of only 2 crashes had).

The new “rights system” necessarily train, since one can adjust now very much, e.g. who which channel be seen can and in which channel to “Push ton talc” be used must.
The Plugin system is also very well, now can one without much spends “music offered” a programming and other useful things to provide.
The interface is arranged user friendly and is applicable without large foreknowledge.

The Client (on Linux the PC) used only straight times 13 MT main memories, and hardly Traffic.

New user the ID system works very well and one can even user of rights provide/change without that the user on the server to be must.
Further there is the possibility as administrator of the server of providing a key and then the different one usern via ICQ ect. to give, so that the user can use directly the rights, if the Admin should not be on if the user on the server is.

The Tab function of TeamSpeak is ingenious, since one can be now simultaneous on many servers and as one in Firefox ect. admitted proceed the servers wecheln can.

To the file Brower in such a way was provided, which one can high-load pictures for Channels and which can insert direct into the description, so the nothing by an external source (Web server) be loaded must.
One can high-load a Avatar for its user account, see this can then to everyone on the server. One can stop and also stop the max. file size, who where which may high-load.

Desweitern is possible it to provide translations to themselves which one then use can, but it will then give tools around own languages to provide.

My opinion is, which will exceed TeamSpeak 3 everything, it much time lasted, until it now so far is, as it is momentary. It will give however still no release date, since still some things are changed and errors are repaired.

Remembers, does not inquire, when TeamSpeak 3 are developed rauskommt there “only” by 4 people.

I will write, if I after-live afterwards come, still parr information.

Here parr beautiful photos.

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With friendly greeting
Patrick “Cobra” Mueller

Thanks Peter for posting, I appreciate your response.

If there is something that could be taken from this thread whether its thought of as negative or not, confirms that many are still hangin there, and ready to throw up their hand in support at a drop of a mention of any way this shrinking community could help out.

With these Alpha testing PeterS, is the TS team any closer to knowing how they'd like to approach the beta testing?

PeterS

21-08-2009, 12:35

Babelfish translations are funny. :)

Page two has another detailed report by Hook88: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=45640&page=2

I've asked both to translate their reports to English, but eventually it's their decision. We cannot tell people what to post here. :-)

All of the TeamSpeak team understand the uproar in the forum and that people are eagerly waiting to get their hands on TeamSpeak 3. On the other hand, we ask users to understand that we want to release a good and finished product, not a building site. And we ask to understand that we don't want to announce an exact release date at the moment. If we give a certain date now and things get delayed just a week (major bug found, all of us get the flu or whatever might happen), the uproar will be unbearable. :)

Final touches are currently being applied, remaining bugs fixed and the last minor features implemented. TeamSpeak 3 is almost ready, but "almost" isn't good enough for a public release for us. So currently it's still "It's done when it's done", but at least we can say this isn't far away anymore.

Regarding offers for help, there will be a lot of things to do once the public beta is available. I'm sure, then we will appreciate (and need) user feedback, bugreports and further help.

Regarding news, to be perfectly honest, we currently have other things to do than to write "We are working on it" ten times a day in the forum. That wouldn't be any interesting news. On the other hand, admittedly an occasional dev blog entry would probably help satisfying the need for news.

tazman911

01-09-2009, 00:34

well from the sounds of the last post, we can expect this product to be released sometime in 2010. I would guess to say sometime around May 2010. Wish is would happen before the new game comes out Modern Warfare 2. Getting tired of using vent, but the sound quality is so much better than teamspeak at the moment.

levi989

01-09-2009, 23:51

Thank you "PeterS," it is nice to hear that it is nearing completion. I am hoping it comes out sometime this year! But I guess I'll just have to wait and see. From what I have seen from the Developer blog, it's looking like it has a very nice set of features. Can't wait to try it out!

But I can defiantly relate to some of the other users who have posted in this Forum, it seems like its been forever since it was announced that TeamSpeak 3 was in development.

lorfirewall

21-09-2009, 15:10

I what I wish to know am for when she goes to be available, because they say for the previous year, and we followed without v 3. He is free going to be this software, the one of client and servant, or will be of payment. I say it because it is a triviality to hope if we must pay by, I remain with the 2. Although not if my children are going to see ts3, because and so is taking ...... for the 2030 perhaps he will be?

Sry my english, is translate!!

ZeroTKA

21-09-2009, 19:29

TS3 será libre

TS3 will be free

lorfirewall

22-09-2009, 00:47

TS3 será libre

TS3 will be free

:eek:thnks:p:D:rolleyes:

tazman911

04-10-2009, 01:04

So when will we receive any new info from the makers of this program. Been a long time coming.

zskull89

04-10-2009, 04:09

So when will we receive any new info from the makers of this program. Been a long time coming.

Cough cough

you will be able to download ts3 beta by latest 31.12.2009.

Maybe you should check a thread at http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=45818&page=2 so theirs the released date :) :) now leave them alone and stop asking before they change their mind.

DeltaForce0815

12-11-2009, 11:41

Will it work to run TS2 and TS3 Beta on the same server at the same time? Any port conflict or something like that?

greetz Delta

ScP

12-11-2009, 20:04

The TS3 server uses other ports than TS2. So there shouldn't be any conflicts.