[Solved] Server Group Permission Values (Modify)

[PV-Patrick]

Can anyone explain to me how the following section works:
Group -> Modify

I am creating a clan admin server group and I am trying to allow them to modify the groups they create and I can't seem to figure it out. What should the value int be? the grant?

How can you find out what access level a particular server group has? Thanks in advance!

[Jonybat]

Hi

No, the Grant value determines the needed permission modify power of that permission. All you need to set is the "i_group_modify_power" and the "i_group_needed_modify_power".

Regards

[PV-Patrick]

I guess my next question would be how do you know what to set those too? I can't find any documentation describing these values or how the power level is even assigned... Thanks!

[Jonybat]

Well...the server docs ain't the most complete or accessible, but they still have valuable info. I'd really advise you to read the permissionsdoc.

Now ill try to explain what you need to know in short...

Default value for Permissions is 0. Default value for Grant Permissions (Needed Permission Modify Power) is 75 (except some high end ones).

Lets assume that you, the Server Owner (SO) create a Server Group (SG) for your Clan Admins (CA) so they can assign Permissions (P) to other Clan Members (CM).

Also: Grant permissions (GP), Permission Modify Power (PMP), Group Modify Power (GMP) and Needed Group Modify Power (NGMP)

SO will have to set a NGMP, lets say 50 (the actual number doesn't matter) to SG so CM can't mess up with SG. Then, SO will have to set the GMP of SG to 50 (or higher), or CA wouldn't be able to modify SG. Also, CA will need PMP so they can change P, own or others, so SO will set SG PMP to 50 (again, it doesn't matter, but keeping them the same makes things really easier).

This was the easy part, now SO has to add every P (ALL the basics plus what you want CA to have) to SG, making them true or 50. But this isn't all, cause if SO want to make CA able to change SG P, will have to set GP to every P set to SG, with a value less or equal to SG PMP. Then the same with every P from every group to CM.

And thats about it. Hope i didn't messed it up even more

[PV-Patrick]

Jonybat - Thank you VERY much for your continued help! It is very much appreciated!

I have read over all the documentation I could find, including the included documentation several times and it REALLY lacks. I understand how the system works via the way you described, thank you! However, I still don't know how the "power" is assigned to a user. The only thing I could find is one thread that says the power is assigned based on time connected to the server. That is unofficial and although makes sense and might be the case, it doesn't explain how a user in one of the server groups gains that power level immediately.

To explain further... I created a server admin group that has some privileges removed from the default group. However, I cannot set the following permissions: Group -> Modify -> i_group_modify_power and have a user in that group be able to modify a server group they created. I have tried values from 0 to 100.

I hope this helps explain my problem, thanks again for your time!

[Jonybat]

Afaik, there is no power granted over time. The only real power that i can think of is the Permission Modify Power, which is the value that is compared with every Permissions Needed Modify Power (Grant value), therefore needed to set, change or delete any permission on the server.

By default, a user does not have any Permission Modify Power, and he wont unless someone grants him. Like i said, the default Permission Needed Modify Power (Grant value) of every permission is set to 75, and the only way to change that is having someone with a Permission Modify Power of 75 (or higher) changing them.

This Permission Modify Power of 75 is set by default to the Server Admin group.

About that specific issue, it sums up to what i said. Considering that you are in the Server Admin group (therefore with a PMP of 75) you should be able to set the permissions in other group. Also (and here maybe it was my fault because what i said on the first post) that group must have both "i_group_modify_power" and "i_client_permission_modify_power" and their value must be equal or higher to "i_group_needed_modify_power" and every other permissions, respectively.

Hope this helps

[PV-Patrick]

Maybe this is getting to specific...
When I login, I put in the server admin token and now I am apart of the Server Admin server group.

I have created a new group, let's say Clan Admin (CA) and I assigned all the privileges I want to that group. Under that I have allowed that they can create, delete, modify a server group and set a specific power; let's say all the values set in Group -> Modify are 50. When I login with a user that I have added to that group (CA); he is not allowed to modify a group that he created. It errors saying "Insufficient group modify power". Do the server groups carry their own power? If so, how do you figure out what power a group has? We all know SA carries 75, how is that obtained? Where does it show that it's 75 for that group?

Hopefully that helped clarify the issue... thanks again for your help!

[Jonybat]

Its not obtained, it has to be specified (not for the default groups tho). Server Admin group has a default "i_group_needed_modify_power" of 75. Every group you create does not have any value set (which should mean that you are able to change it, but you still have the grant permission). All you need to do is set it, to 50 (or lower) in that case.

In any case, if you are getting the "Insufficient group modify power" its a good thing, cause it means that you bypassed the grant value (at least for that permission).

Thats it

[PV-Patrick]

Thank you so much for the support Jonybat!! I was finally able to get it working....

[Jonybat]

Your welcome. Glad i could help