is there no client list?

[armitage]

Hi there,

i use TS3 for a MMORPG guild.
Now there are changing members in a guild all the time and many guests on a TS server.

Now the question is...
when i want to add new users in groups (and i dont know with what nickname they exactly were online) do i really have to go from 1 to 876234 to search the database ID?

Wouldnt it be much easier when you had a function to show the user-DB, just with nicknames, db-id, last login for example?

Can´t believe i´m the only one who wishes such a function

cheers

[armitage]

68 klicks and noone knows?

[ANR Daemon]

Though it's obvious. And you already found the answer.

[dante696]

With acces to the database file you already have acces to these informations.

[armitage]

yay.....but not simple in the client
...


ok, why make it easy :/
i thought in a beta someone will be open minded for ideas or even for a discussion;

mea culpa

[ANR Daemon]

TS3 PHP framework was released already, as I recall. Give it a try?

[armitage]

well...i think you still dont got me right

i was talking about a function IN the client, without any other tools, php kits ...

because IN the client, you can easily add users into group with the DB-id

and there should just be a button, to show the list of the users;
even if its only last 24 hours or smthn
or see them in the standard grp for example; and copy/paste them into other grps

not everyone was a fan of these ts2 homepage-setup-thing
so i don´t really need a webpanel when i can do everything with the client

and the most things are done, so you almost dont need the serverquery anymore; so why no easy overview of the connections

cheers

[ANR Daemon]

I, personally, think that default client functionality is just WAY OVER what is need for everyday/casual use.
I can imagine it split into "just client" and "administration addon kit". (Also, the current user rights system just ridiculously complicated).

[armitage]

(Also, the current user rights system just ridiculously complicated)

this is totally true;

hm, yes, for a standard user the client is a bit overloaded; but i like it to admin the server directly, because i´m lazy

but i share your thought, maybe this whole admin thing should be an addon in the final version
with...a userlist *gg* ^^

[Peter]

Hi,

there will be a "Client List" functionality within the client, but it just currently isn't there yet. Your Problem doesn't sound like anything that you would use a "Client List" to solve though, to grant your members access you have two basic routes:

(a) You are online when they are online: Open the "Server Groups" dialog, and use drag&drop to drag the client form the tree-view into the "Clients" list.

(b) You are not online when they are online: This is what tokens are made for! Go to the token manager dialog, hit "Add Token" and select which group the member you are making this token for should receive. Once you have that filled out hit "Create", and copy&paste the generated token string and send it to your member in any way you communicate with your members (e.g. email). On the members side he just connects to the server and then clicks permissions->use token and adds this string you gave him. (Alternative member side: fill the token into the connect/bookmark dialog, Annother alternative member side: you sent him a ts3 link via email that can contain nickname, server IP, server port the token to use and even ask the member if he would like to bookmark this server )

In short: we are gonna add what you want, but you shouldn't use what we're gonna add for the problem you are trying to solve

[armitage]

well there is a third way c)

i never really used this token thing ´til now...just for a test with a user
way to complicated for many users, that only want to play with their pc´s and got NO clue how to install a prog...or use a token
even if you finally have reached him...and know his email, icq or smthn....til there you found him easily in a list
(yes....there are still pc users, that let their children install their voip software that they can talk while playing an mmorpg)

if you´re online when the user is on that you wanna add...it´s easy; i know

but if he´s offline, you can add him over the "server group rights" with the button "add"
then you need a database ID

and there i thought it would be simple to have a list of the id´s

sry for making tokens unnecessary

but if such a overview comes...great; that was all i wanted to know

cheers

[Peter]

Sending a link that contains the token, server IP, server Port etc. via email is as easy as it gets. "Click on this link to join our TS server" or similar. I am sure as long as the kids can read a bit they should be fine with those instructions

PS: your (c) method is not basic, it is complicated. All you have to identify a client is the last used nick name and the list of clients quickly gets large since every client that ever joins is listed. There are many more ways that a and b (and c!), I was focusing on basic/easy ways, not trying to give you a complete list of how you can add members to groups.

[ANR Daemon]

Peter, key word is "if you know a email".
For instance, in WoW it's typical that people know eachother in game only. No forums, nothing.

[armitage]

well, this is the difference between theory and praxis

for you it´s easy when you send the token via email; very professional

and btw...i didn´t talk about kids that can´t read, i was talking about people, that only know how to open the game and play; like we have one in our guild...and his son installed him ts3
that was what i was saying; talking about reading ;p

when you meet up ingame, you post the ip/port/pw in the chat; no links, no emails ...no copy paste...

now....the praxis...
poeple play together an evening for few hours and the guest is invited into the guild

next day the admin comes and another member tells him...."hey, yesterday there was this guy...his name was...hmmm.....something with D..."

you cklick the list ....."hey...was it Dlkshdgnpiehj?" "hey, yes...he´s a nice guy"

*click* *added*

so what is complicated here? 10 secs work

i know this software can do very much; almost make coffee too; but the most usage is in small guilds/clans i guess

so this situation isnt so far away

[ANR Daemon]

armitage, what you describing is the main deficiency of TS3 permissions system.
It just not linked to any real-world applications, except most secure ones used in government, science and military institutions.