Happy Easter, TS3 Final, and More

[Longtime]

Will this allow you to toggle on/off these channel groups with a keypress? Will it give you control over what set of channels your whisper goes to?

In short - can you get the exact same functionality as TS2 channel commander with this, if desired?

The original whisper functionality was touted as "replacing" channel commander - it really did not accomplish this, so excuse my skepticism regarding this "far more flexible" system that's supposedly on the way.

Exactly.

On these forums, TS devs previously stated that Channel Commander would be built into TS3 at some point during the beta. I suppose that was abandoned?

Please get this right, devs. The old CC system was simple and flexible. Whisper Lists are much more cumbersome, and do not replace the single key functionality.

[TotoIsBack]

This has been requested already
http://forum.teamspeak.com/showpost....51&postcount=2

Thx for the link

About CC I think that the new system is more flexible, and with a little config, as good and simple as the old one (but much better).

[Mr.Katana]

Tell me, why subchannels dont take password from parrent channel as it was in TS2? Why do I have to set password for parrent channel and for each subchannel separately? I get that someone may want to different password for subchannel that for parrent channel, but default settings should be the same pass for all subchannels taken from parrent channel and then there should be option to change it.

[poisonpanik]

@Mr.Katana

inheriting permissions from parent channel is on the devs to-do list.

[T.S. Excreta]

http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=54099
http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=47731 (Older thread, some new posts)
http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthrea...t=53958&page=2 (This is nice, page 2 someone says forum is useless for support)
http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=48947 (4 pages of people having the same problem that only I experience - nice how the first reply is to "push the button longer" rather than simply looking in to the issue)

Yeah... I must just be crying. Or maybe I am an idiot as some complete and total moron suggested? I don't know for sure about those things, but what I -do- know for sure is that LOTS of people are "crying" about the problems and are either getting comical or insulting answers, or are simply being ignored for feature pushes rather than bug fixes.

I am not the only person complaining about bugs... I am just doing it where I feel the devs will actually look at it and hopefully notice it (which seems to NOT be happening) for a change.

Seriously now, ignoring the glaring bugs in this application will not make them go away. Ignoring people who report bugs is just showing your desire to fail. Your lack of serious support is frustrating and infuriating to some folks and you seemingly do not care in the least. That, in the end, will do nothing more than drive users away and force them to stay with Ventrilo or something similar. It is really that simple.

So, instead of trying to insult me or tell me how wrong I am or whatever, try actually listening to the users who are TRYING their best to help you track bugs and fix them. Give it a try... it might even make your project worth looking at when it comes to spending money on it.

[R. Ludwig]

yes indeed, people crying about bugs, features and the world...
yes indeed, far more people got an "working" ts3 and are happy with it...

only very very few people register at a forum to tell you: hey, all works, thank you... far more, with a bug, with an idea, just bad mood or whatever come here and create a new thread/post which could be counted as an negative one with your math...

like said in an different post already, we really try to track down every bug and our changelogs should show that we do alot of fixing. telling us that we ignore bugs is a bit harsh and insulting to us and it is just not the truth. we got also bugs where we rely on 3rd party libraries (which can also be buggy), so its not always our fault and it takes just time to get them fixing it.

to summarize, your post could be written a way different, a way less aggressive.

thanks,
ralf

[poisonpanik]

@T.S. Excreta
Again, the devs do their best to answer questions but this is also a user driven forum.

http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=48947 (4 pages of people having the same problem that only I experience - nice how the first reply is to "push the button longer" rather than simply looking in to the issue)

Based on what the OP stated in his first post my answer would have been the same. We are not looking over people's shoulders and watching them use TS. I have no idea what setup someone has unless they tell me. You cannot expect more than what was offered as a response to the question given what the OP had said in his original post. Please enlighten me as to what you would have said that would have fixed the problem on post 2.

http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthrea...t=53958&page=2 (This is nice, page 2 someone says forum is useless for support)

The post about the forum being useless was from the OP and he was frustrated as most people are by the time they post in the forums. I am currently working with the OP to try and find a solution.

And the first thread you posted on... The OP never bothered to write back so I can only assume he has fixed his problem.

In the end there is A LOT more going on that you neither see nor hear about so bite your tongue when it comes to ridiculing the devs and support team. Most TS3 users have had their problems solved or have not had any problems at all. It's the few that do have problems that we as a community try to help and the devs/support team work to correct program issues and add functionality based on user request.

[dante696]

Reply to PTT problem:
I tested Push-To-Talk with 3 other testers and we had no problem at all.
I toled an developer, that many people having problems with PTT and the developer team implement a feature Delay Releasing PTT under Capture > Advanced, to send a bit longer after releasing the key.

[LTZOLE]

Hi!

I have a question. Our tried the earlier version of TS3 ,but my friend, who have a server told us, that Ts3 server version was too dangerous ,that installed to his system.
So, I'd like to ask, that Is TS3 Beta security level , same or higher then TS2 ?
Thank you,
Zoltan

P.s.: Your programme are very useful and comfortable.
Keep it up!

[TotoIsBack]

Ts3 servers are way more secure than ts2.
The only thing is, you have to know what you're doing with the permissions, or you could wrong permissions to wrong people.

[T.S. Excreta]

@T.S. Excreta
Again, the devs do their best to answer questions but this is also a user driven forum.

I am not asking for detailed answers. I am asking that when people share the information they have about PROBLEMS with the beta client/server, that they at least acknowledge those issues in a kind, courteous and professional manner. However, they refuse to do so. They instead give condescending and sarcastic remarks as answers.

Based on what the OP stated in his first post my answer would have been the same. We are not looking over people's shoulders and watching them use TS. I have no idea what setup someone has unless they tell me. You cannot expect more than what was offered as a response to the question given what the OP had said in his original post. Please enlighten me as to what you would have said that would have fixed the problem on post 2.

I am not asking nor suggesting that the dev team is watching people use TS3 "over their shoulders." I am asking that they AT LEAST try to compile a list of the most common problems and work on them BEFORE feature pushes. BEFORE fixing insignificant things like icons displaying improperly.

What I would have said, as a developer, is to give me more information. What is the memory usage when it happens? What operating system are you using? How much memory? Which sound card do you use? Not simply "push the button longer," which DOES NOT WORK.

The post about the forum being useless was from the OP and he was frustrated as most people are by the time they post in the forums. I am currently working with the OP to try and find a solution.

I am happy to hear you are working with the OP in that thread. However, he was justified to be that frustrated. The problems with this program are reported over and over and over again all over the forums, yet the problems are either ignored or only given light attention. Like adding the "delay after releasing talk key" fix. Well, I have news for you. It doesn't work. People complain in the servers CONSTANTLY about words being cut off.

And the first thread you posted on... The OP never bothered to write back so I can only assume he has fixed his problem.

And that, sir, is a problem. Assuming the problem has gone away instead of pressing for more information from either the OP in that thread or other users who may have had similar problems is a bad idea at best.

Personally, I would assume he saw how buggy the beta is thus far and decided to continue using a competitor's product over this one. Just to clarify here, I am happy overall with this product. I think TS3 is great so far, aside from the annoyances which are being ignored like the garbled speech and words being cut off. Those two things are thing which can and probably WILL kill off TS3 if they make it into release. I am only trying to prevent that, but I am getting nothing but flack for doing so.

In the end there is A LOT more going on that you neither see nor hear about so bite your tongue when it comes to ridiculing the devs and support team. Most TS3 users have had their problems solved or have not had any problems at all. It's the few that do have problems that we as a community try to help and the devs/support team work to correct program issues and add functionality based on user request.

Sorry, I refuse to bite my tongue on this. It has been ignored FAR too long and they are announcing TS3 final? I realize there is still no set date for the final, but they more or less say it is the next step, even WITH the problems.

As for the few... I would really like to differ with you on that. I read the client and server forums daily. I see the same sound issues posted day after day and week after week. People are not being heard for some reason.

Thanks for at least being someone who understand that you do not need to be mean to someone who was asked to give more details, provided them and then was no longer acknowledged as to whether or not they even CARE about the problems beta testers are reporting on in the hopes that those problems will not be given out during official release.

I only care about the final product being as good as it can be. As I have said before, I absolutely LOATHE ventrilo and used TS2 for a very long time. However, it got to the point where its lack of features drove me to using Ventrilo even though I hated it so much. If you and people on the team or the alpha testers see me as overly aggressive on this, GOOD. That means you are finally seeing it and are being forced to give the issues attention.

In the end, the TS fans, the devs and the product overall will benefit from this. I just want the software to be successful because TeamSpeak has always been easiest to use and less resource intensive.

Another thread started about garbled speech.
http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthrea...857#post238857

[Trekkan]

In many ways, I don't think people will disagree with you about specific issues that need to be fixed, etc. I think more than anything it's the way you go about it.

You're so upset about things, it's hard for people to get past the rant and see the actual problem in your posts. Your posts tend to have a doomsday theme to them and that's simply not the case since many of us are running things just fine with the current release. Subsequent releases should only improve upon that. If you want to help fix things, keep posting your reports and stop expecting anything in return. At the end of the, you can hold your head high and say "I told you so" to everyone you want, but it's not going to help.

I'm not trying to criticize here, I'm trying to help. But I think things have pretty much run their course and more discussion on the topic isn't going to produce anything positive.

[licht77]

Thanks for your efforts in pushing this project further. Just my 2 cents as a small standard user:

I got a TS3 server running on Win7 since the first day of its release. I made several upgrades (just because of curiosity and not because of issues) and currently its on beta 21.

There are around unique 60 users connecting to the server per day.

So far, I did not see any problems or faced any bugs - lucky me.

All what i am *really waiting for* is a release for bsd as promised months ago... and especially here 2 points are really annoying:

1. It was told that there will be some bsd binarys as soon as the windows version is running stable: Well - on my system it IS running stable (i know - this may not be the same for lots of other users).

2. It was also told, that the final will be released when bugs of existing features are gone. Well - as i hear there are also *new* features added.

... and month by month is passing by.

Regarding the history of TS2 - which never saw a final - it may be a good and constructive ment advice for the responsible persons / developers of TS3 to really rethink their planning and working processes.

Face the facts: The product IS already very good! Waiting for a day with 0 bugs is an illusion while adding new features! Its time to score! And support for a stable server os may be more important than adding some smileys...

[stalker34]

I can see how people are getting frustrated. TS2 has a solid user account system, and now they are bringing out TS3, that just lets anyone come into a teamspeak server with someone elses name.

This new system seems like its designed for lala's who dont care who frequesnts their server. As well, it has an overly complicated permissions system, and you basically cant find a good set of docs to learn properly.


I think Im just gonna stay with ts2, unless they fix these issues. I run a clan, and will not have a teamspeak server, that does not even have a good security measure in place. The way ts3 is, you can use anyones nick. Even though the permissions might not be the same, it still leaves open an opportunity to those who are out to spread ill will. And we all know theres plenty of people out there that will just abuse this left and right.

[poisonpanik]

@stalker34

The devs have said that username reservation will be included in the future. TS3 is way more secure that TS2 was.