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    [Beta Channel] TeamSpeak 3 Client 3.0.17

    Hello,

    the latest beta release for Client version 3.0.17 is available.

    This is a pretty big release for us with lots of internal changes:

    • TeamSpeak now includes 12 languages by default. Community created translations are of course still available, so if someone prefers to use an existing community-created translation, that can still be installed and used. However, we want to offer a multilingual experience to all our users by default who may not be aware of the possibility to install additional language packs.
    • The TeamSpeak client now sends some statistics about your operating system and hardware to us. This is an opt-in feature, you will be asked before anything is sent.
      The reason for this is, we really need some fundamental data to be able to make future decisions, for example whether we need support for certain operating systems. Right now we have no idea how many people are still running TeamSpeak on no longer supported systems like XP or OS X 10.6. The data is sent anonymously and cannot be traced back to you.
      The exact data is shown in the client log when it is sent, for those who are interested in the details. It includes information about the CPU supporting 32 or 64 bit, supported hardware features of the CPU (e.g. SSE2), operating system, version number and 32/64 bit type of operating system and the version of the current TeamSpeak client. We do not scan for installed software. This report would be sent once per month, unless you cancel your opt-in again. We would be very happy if many users decide to opt-in, as this data will be helpful for us.
      We do value privacy a lot, and we are of the opinion this is one of the big selling points of TeamSpeak, but we think the collected data is rather harmless regarding privacy concerns.
    • For legal reasons you now need to accept a TeamSpeak client license agreement the first time you start the client, and again in case of a change to the license agreement. You should know this from other software and games, so hopefully this is not a big deal.
    • We added a new crashdump upload system. Previously dumps had to be manually uploaded to the forum, which was not optimal for both our users and us. Users had to create a forum account if they didn't have one, and it involved some work. I suppose many people just stopped at the forum account creation, so we probably missed a lot of those crashes. On the other hand it was also bad for us, because we had to examine all these crashes, and see a lot of the same multiple times. With the new system multiple uploads of the same crash will be categorized properly, so we don't need to examine the same crash over and over. The time we save here can be invested into more interesting things.
      We hope this new system lets us react to problems faster, and not only when the forum has exploded, like with the currently reported crash with certain pre-installed OEM software (which should hopefully be fixed with 3.0.17). Also we hope that more people will send us their crash reports because it is now much less effort.
      This system is also opt-in, nothing is sent unless you explicitly click the Send button in the error reporter.
    • We overhauled the newsticker, it's now multilingual and can be updated faster. The beta news are separate from the news shown in 3.0.16. We will be experimenting with this during the beta, so please don't wonder if you see some testing news during the next week. :-)
      This is not meant as a Twitter replacement, but occasionally we want to share something with every user.
    • Finally, and this has been the biggest change for us (but invisible to you), we completely overhauled our build system. We also upgraded our compilers and our entire backend to have a future-proof foundation for the next years, especially as we are already using C++11 language features in our new code. I understand that's boring to most of you, but for us it has been a vast quality of life improvement. This upgrade is the reason why there has not been a release for quite some time. We hope to get back to a more regular update frequency again now that we are set.


    The upcoming sync feature is not included in the 3.0.17 release. We are not fully satisfied with the current solution and don't want to release something to the public we are not completely happy with ourselves. While we understand it is not optimal to have it promised for quite some time now, it is against our philosophy to release something which does not completely meet your and our demands.

    If you are not yet on the beta channel, you can easily select it by going to Options / Applications and switch the Update Channel dropdown box to "Beta". To opt-out of Beta again, switch it back to "Stable".

    Please find the entire changelog below:
    Code:
    === Client Release 3.0.17 22 Jul 2015
    * Updated to Qt 5.4.1 
    + Added automatic crashdump upload, replacing the old manual upload to the
      forum. In case of a crash, a report tool will show and ask the user if the
      dump should be automatically uploaded to our servers.
    + Collect and send anonymous statistics about users hardware and operating
      system to us for internal decisions (which hardware and OS version needs to
      be supported etc.). Disabled by default, user will be asked by a dialog the
      first time, to agree to send the data. Decision can be changed later in
      Options/Application/Anonymous Statistics. What exactly is being sent is
      displayed in the client log. If agreed, data is sent once per month. Users on
      beta channel always send the data.
    + Added new translations: Spanish, French, Italian, Japanese, Polish,
      Portuguese, Russian, Swedish, Thai and Turkish.
    + Added multilingual license agreement dialog due to legal requirements.
    + Added multilingual newsticker with support for dynamic update periods.
    + Multilingual Windows installer.
    + Iconpacks default_colored_2014 and default_mono_2014 updated. Some icons
      were overhauled and some new were added.
    + OS X: Added support for GateKeeper Version 2 signatures for OS X 10.9 and
      above.
    + Added more icon names to settings.ini.
    + Improved support for high resolution Retina displays.
    + Added dialog to restart client after changing iconpack or language.
    + Added taskbar flashing on incoming chat message.
    + Updated Windows C++ runtime to version 120.
    - Fixed URL capture when emoticon replacement is enabled. The emoticon :/ was
      replaced inside hyperlinks (http://) and thus ruined the link. Also fixed
      clientid:// and channelid:// links, which were affected by the same problem.
    - Fixed scaling of various images.
    - Fixed possible crashes related to filetransfer.
    - Changed appearance of poke dialog when client is minimized, hidden or behind
      a fullscreen application.
    - Fixed crash with rotating users in 3D sound.
    - Fixed possible crash with some Bluetooth controllers.
    - Fixed searching server tree for custom name and nickname.
    - Fixed sending offline messages to multiple users.
    - Fixed issue with chat partner disconnecting.
    - Fixed special character treatment in TSDNS resolver.
    - Fixed various issues with URL tagging.
    - Reworked UTF-8 conversion backend.
    - Fixed possible crash with invalid texts in virtual server settings dialog.
    - Removed appscanner plugin due to questionable usefulness
    Last edited by Chris; July 23rd, 2015 at 12:36 PM.

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    Very good News! Since the last release of the TeamSpeak 3 Client also much time has passed. Hope it will come back more updates for the client.

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    Good to see you're "back" again. And thanks for the explanation, wasn't boring at all but rather nice to know.
    (could be caused by being a software developer myself though)

    On a sad note, one of the first things the new version did for me was crash when connecting to a server.
    I was however able to narrow it down to using "Default Text to Speech" as notification sound pack.
    When I switched to another pack, it no longer crashed.

    OS is Win 8.1 64bit:
    Code:
    TeamSpeak 3 Client 3.0.17 (2015-07-21 15:04:22)	
    SystemInformation: Windows 8 (9200) x64 (AMD or Intel) Binary: 64bit
    It's only a minor inconvenience for now but being read the user names sure is a nice feature.
    (sadly you dropped support for phonetic name specification during earlier beta days )
    Last edited by Elkano; July 23rd, 2015 at 05:20 PM.

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    <avatar ignored>

    After updating the client, when I click on myself in the clientinfo window it appears

    <avatar ignored>

    Code:
    23/07/2015 15:51:46		Info	TeamSpeak 3 Client 3.0.17 (2015-07-21 15:04:22)	
    23/07/2015 15:51:46		Info	SystemInformation: Windows Vista SP2 (6002) x86 Binary: 32bit
    Other users, the avatar it's shown.

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    How we can assist with correcting that translations? (i can help with russian one)
    Because 'Good' button instead of 'OK' is not good at all

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    Its nice to see you back indeed.

    I am experiencing the same issue that Elkano reported, although switching the notification sound pack did not make any difference. I also tried with a clean start (removed all the user settings files) and the result is the same, as soon as i try to connect to a server, TS crashes.

    There is no crashlog and the log does not show anything relevant, just ends after the following lines:
    2015-07-23 17:31:48.370224|INFO |ClientUI |2 |Connect status: Connected
    2015-07-23 17:31:48.398225|INFO |ClientUI |2 |Connect status: Establishing connection
    2015-07-23 17:31:48.411226|INFO |ClientUI |2 |Connect status: Connection established
    2015-07-23 17:31:48.411226|INFO |PermManager | |Requesting permissions from server
    I had to revert to 3.0.16

    Oh and btw, the Portuguese translation has some errors and multiple things out of context, just at a first glance. You could have just used my translation as a baseline or something...

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    I have the same crash issue. I also noticed that you state that the collection of data is an opt-in feature yet if I say I don't agree when the window pops up it closes Teamspeak. So basically It's opt-in as in either you agree to let us collect data or you don't use our program is what it seems like to me.

    Edit: I found the option however it's greyed out and stuck on. How do I go about opting out? I would prefer if you didn't get any info from my computer without me telling you it myself.

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    Translation errors

    Hi Peter,

    I received the latest BETA version, with new languages by default.
    I am the translator of the French version from the beginning of TeamSpeak 3. I noticed in your version there are many mistranslation.

    How can I help you ?

    Thank You.
    Last edited by Hawk19; July 23rd, 2015 at 11:35 PM.

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    Hello,

    I just support the message Hawk19. The French version has a lot of inconsistencies and translation errors. Some spineless sentence meaningless.

    Ezmana.

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    Also was experiencing the client crashes. Once I disabled Text to Speech, it started running normally again. Running Windows 8.1 (64-bit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varacka View Post
    I also noticed that you state that the collection of data is an opt-in feature yet if I say I don't agree when the window pops up it closes Teamspeak. So basically It's opt-in as in either you agree to let us collect data or you don't use our program is what it seems like to me.

    Edit: I found the option however it's greyed out and stuck on. How do I go about opting out? I would prefer if you didn't get any info from my computer without me telling you it myself.
    Well as mentioned in the first port, this feature is always enabled for the beta channel. We give you new features to play with, you give us some tiny bits of information (OS, CPU Type, CPU capabilities) in return. You can opt-out by not using the beta channel and use the stable instead. On Stable version you can opt-out again.

    And just in case you're wondering, this is how it looks like:
    Code:
    2015-07-13 06:56:58.821574|INFO    |              |   |Statistics report: On alpha or beta channel, always report
    2015-07-13 06:56:58.821574|INFO    |              |   |Statistics report:
    2015-07-13 06:56:58.822574|INFO    |              |   |   TS3 version: 3.0.17  (7/9/2015 11:13:37) (1436433217), arch:64-bit
    2015-07-13 06:56:58.822574|INFO    |              |   |   System software: Windows, detail: 6.1 7601, arch: 64-bit, SP: Service Pack 1
    2015-07-13 06:56:58.822574|INFO    |              |   |   CPU type: Intel, arch: 64-bit, sse2: yes, sse3: yes, sse4_1: yes, sse4_2: yes, sse4a: yes, avx: no, avx2: no
    2015-07-13 06:56:58.823574|INFO    |              |   |Statistics report: Report sent
    2015-07-13 06:56:58.823574|INFO    |              |   |Statistics report: Setting next report date to: Thu Aug 13 08:56:58 2015
    As you can see, there is not much that is being sent and what is being sent is harmless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonybat View Post
    the Portuguese translation has some errors and multiple things out of context, just at a first glance. You could have just used my translation as a baseline or something...
    Please tell us what is wrong exactly and we'll see if it can be corrected. Due to several reasons we couldn't start with already existing translations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk19 View Post
    I am the translator of the French version from the beginning of TeamSpeak 3. I noticed in your version there are many mistranslation.
    How can I help you ?
    Same as above, please tell us exactly what is wrong where.
    Last edited by Chris; July 24th, 2015 at 08:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Well as mentioned in the first port, this feature is always enabled for the beta channel. We give you new features to play with, you give us some tiny bits of information (OS, CPU Type, CPU version, CPU capabilities) in return. You can opt-out by not using the beta channel and use the stable instead. On Stable version you can opt-out again.



    Please tell us what is wrong exactly and we'll see if it can be corrected. Due to several reasons we couldn't start with already existing translations.



    Same as above, please tell us exactly what is wrong where.
    They are many and everywhere. Would you like, I correct your translation and I will send you for verification? (If yes, please send me files.)

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    Thanks for the feedback!

    • TTS crashes: I will check, we were not yet aware of this. Uploaded crashes so far are mostly caused by plugins (arma2, volumecontrol)
    • Translations: One collector thread on this forum would be very useful, then we could send in bundled feedback to the translation company and point them to the issues. Unfortunately my french was never great and meanwhile forgotten, so hard for me to judge that myself.
    • <Avatar ignored>: No idea right now. Will check if Q/A can reproduce that.


    I also noticed that you state that the collection of data is an opt-in feature yet if I say I don't agree when the window pops up it closes Teamspeak.
    Edit: I found the option however it's greyed out and stuck on.
    The initial dialog is the license agreement. That must be agreed to, else TeamSpeak closes. Legal reasons and lawyer stuff. This is not the data collections opt-in. The opt-in dialogs reads like this: "To help make TeamSpeak a better program, we would like to collect some statistics [...]"
    This dialog will appear when TeamSpeak wants to send the data the first time, which is some random time after first start of 3.0.17 to avoid everyone firing this off at the same time after stable release. Alternativly you can give your ok by enabling the checkbox in Options/Application, but as we assume not everyone would see this, the dialog will appear automatically at some random day. That same checkbox can then be used to opt-out again later if wished.

    Something I did not mention in my initial post, but is included in the changelog: Beta channel clients always send the data. We assumed that beta users are those who are interested to help us testing the software, offer kindly feedback to improve the product and get their hands on the new version in advance. That's why the checkbox is disabled.
    Not sure if this is a problem. One could make beta users opt-out instead, or same as stable channel users, or just leave it as it is now. I suppose we should discuss that internally.

    This is the data from my PC (it appears in the client log), just to show what's included:

    Statistics report:
    TS3 version: 3.0.17 (21.07.2015 17:04:22) (1437491062), arch:64-bit
    System software: Windows, detail: 6.2 9200, arch: 64-bit, SP:
    CPU type: Intel, arch: 64-bit, sse2: yes, sse3: yes, sse4_1: yes, sse4_2: yes, sse4a: yes, avx: no, avx2: no
    <personal note, not speaking as TeamSpeak employee>
    I am myself quite paranoid about privacy and data collection, but in my very humble opinion above is pretty harmless.
    </personal note>

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    Thanks for the feedback!

    • TTS crashes: I will check, we were not yet aware of this. Uploaded crashes so far are mostly caused by plugins (arma2, volumecontrol)
    • Translations: One collector thread on this forum would be very useful, then we could send in bundled feedback to the translation company and point them to the issues. Unfortunately my french was never great and meanwhile forgotten, so hard for me to judge that myself.
    • <Avatar ignored>: No idea right now. Will check if Q/A can reproduce that.





    The initial dialog is the license agreement. That must be agreed to, else TeamSpeak closes. Legal reasons and lawyer stuff. This is not the data collections opt-in. The opt-in dialogs reads like this: "To help make TeamSpeak a better program, we would like to collect some statistics [...]"
    This dialog will appear when TeamSpeak wants to send the data the first time, which is some random time after first start of 3.0.17 to avoid everyone firing this off at the same time after stable release. Alternativly you can give your ok by enabling the checkbox in Options/Application, but as we assume not everyone would see this, the dialog will appear automatically at some random day. That same checkbox can then be used to opt-out again later if wished.

    Something I did not mention in my initial post, but is included in the changelog: Beta channel clients always send the data. We assumed that beta users are those who are interested to help us testing the software, offer kindly feedback to improve the product and get their hands on the new version in advance. That's why the checkbox is disabled.
    Not sure if this is a problem. One could make beta users opt-out instead, or same as stable channel users, or just leave it as it is now. I suppose we should discuss that internally.

    This is the data from my PC (it appears in the client log), just to show what's included:



    <personal note, not speaking as TeamSpeak employee>
    I am myself quite paranoid about privacy and data collection, but in my very humble opinion above is pretty harmless.
    </personal note>
    Hello Peter,


    This is perfect, as I have said, send me your files (.ts files), I'll correct the mistakes and then you can send to the company that translates for verification.


    It does not matter that you do not speak French, just that in translation done by the company, they have done much word for word and not make sense, so many things do not mean anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    Thanks for the feedback!

    • TTS crashes: I will check, we were not yet aware of this. Uploaded crashes so far are mostly caused by plugins (arma2, volumecontrol)

    [...]
    <personal note, not speaking as TeamSpeak employee>
    I am myself quite paranoid about privacy and data collection, but in my very humble opinion above is pretty harmless.
    </personal note>
    Thanks for the heads-up. I'm not running any plugins at the moment, so the crash in my case shouldn't be related to any of them.

    Regarding the submitted data, while it would have been nice to mention the automatic "forced" opt-in for beta users, I agree that the data can be considered harmless, especially if it can't be associated to a specific user via additional meta data.

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