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  1. #1
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    Hardware sided bans

    Hey TeamSpeak team,

    is there a planned feature on todo list to create hardware bans?

    Well I know everyone has an own client id and IP adress but both
    could be easily changed by the banned user. Well I also know the
    way to setup IP range bans, but other users could have a disadvantage
    because of this.

    The advantages of hardware sided bans were greate.

    Only for example it should be possible to create these with the hardware id
    (MAC) of the system plate or where TeamSpeak is beeing installed. So a normal
    ban results in a "life time" ban until the hardware got renewed.

    Of course for privacy no one is able to see the hardware id for anyone else.
    It should also get an hash like the inique client id.


    I also know how to bypass this ban (e.g. virtual plates) but I think it's a more
    powerful ban, like IP or client id bans, am I right?

    So, please tell me if it is a planned feature.

  2. #2
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    Go learn something about what you're asking for.
    I.e. IP protocol header layout.
    If you can find user MAC there, come back and show it to us.

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    Okay...

    Than tell me something about the unique client id.

    I am able to create a new one like everyone else, too.

    As a Windows installed application which is needed
    admin rights, it should be possible TeamSpeak get the
    hardware id (for example) of the system plate.
    Like the client id it could be send and saved as hash
    but of course the client is not able the edit it.

    So don't talk trash men... of course it's possible to implement in the client.
    Why it should not be possible that the client get the hardware id and send it to the server? Hmm tell it me...

    Theme got already discussed: http://forum.teamspeak.com/threads/2...n-m%C3%B6glich

    @TeamSpeak Team Is it a planned feature or not?

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    Anything sent from client to server can be faked. You have no way to verify that "hardware id", whatever you mean by it, sent by client, is matching your expectations.
    Seriously, stop karma farming, and do some learning.

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    Of course everything could be faked.
    How about telling me something new?

    Stop your postfarming shit, I asked the TeamSpeak team and not you unknowing guy.

    It's also possible to encrypt those communication like it is at the moment.
    And of course only TeamSpeak knows the encrypt key/way.
    It makes the ban even more stronger and you can't bypass it easily.

    It's much more easier to create a new unique id as to find a way
    to bypass this method of ban players like I told. IP ban is ignored
    here because its easy to change or bypass it, too.

    This solution is even more stronger than the actually ban "hammer".

    And yes, you can tell it 1000 times to me, there will be a way to bypass
    the client server communication, but this is much more harder than change
    client id or IP adress AND this "client server communication" could be update
    every client/server update, too, to make it more stronger if a bypass released.

    So... This ban method would be more effective as the actual one.
    (And yes all "smartasses" outthere every ban method can be break)

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    So far, you are failed to understand the very basic security principle:
    Anything not under your control can not be trusted.
    A TeamSpeak client application running on foreign system can not be trusted.
    Its keys can be compromised, forged or faked easily.
    There's no way to enforce what you are expecting to achieve, with only software protocols.

  7. #7
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    I agree to ANR Daemon

    Quote Originally Posted by .Fake. View Post
    The advantages of hardware sided bans were greate.

    Only for example it should be possible to create these with the hardware id
    (MAC) of the system plate or where TeamSpeak is beeing installed. So a normal
    ban results in a "life time" ban until the hardware got renewed.
    This will not stop the goblins to come back within a minute. Because this can be changed or faked without any big knowledge.
    The only way to stop such users are passwords or default guest groups where users can not do anything else as sitting in the moderated default channel.
    When sending me private messages: Please make sure to include reference link to your forum thread or post.

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  8. #8
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    Ban

    Will there be implemented the ban the hardware of the computer?

    At the moment to get around a ban is easy if you have a dynamic ip. And even more so at the id.
    Last edited by dante696; September 13th, 2016 at 11:55 PM. Reason: that's not possible.

  9. #9
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    There are no plans to add something like that.
    Hardware can be changed or faked too.

    Please use a server password or a Guest group with restrictions to avoid that bad users come back to have fun.
    Beeing idle in the default channel, without the ability to talk, chat our top join other channels is no fun.
    When sending me private messages: Please make sure to include reference link to your forum thread or post.

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