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  1. #1
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    When is TS going to add the feature to let admins set default style

    I find it hard to believe that as long as TS has been around and as many customizations that are available for the user side that TS has not or will not add a feature to be able to set the server side theme.

    This is 2016 and everyone wants to customize everything for their group, team, community, or any other use they may have for any software they use. So why not allow admins to do the same on the server side? I want my community users to all have the same default theme when they use my teamspeak and i want to be able to set that via the admin settings.

    Im not asking you to allow free modders to post junk to the admin side as that could be dangerious. I am asking for a feature to be able to set the default theme that everyone should use for the TS when they log in. They can change it if they want or i should be able to block the change from admin. However i want that option.

    For example, in settings -> options -> design, the windows bluesky works well with my community theme. Why is there not a feature to set that as the default so that anyone that joins the TS uses that theme. And if i allow them to then they can change it.

    So there needs to be two new select boxs on that page... One for set as default and one for allow users to change the default.
    Why has this not been done before now? Is this something that TS would consider.

    So im not asking for TS to add or allow to be added a bunch of custom themes that might make the TS vulnerable. Im just asking to be able to set the default to a style you already have in the software.

    Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by durangod View Post
    I find it hard to believe that as long as TS has been around and as many customizations that are available for the user side that TS has not or will not add a feature to be able to set the server side theme.
    There is the free will of users that need to be respected. I'm mad enough that I cannot disable [animations in] server banners client-side.

    Quote Originally Posted by durangod View Post
    This is 2016 and everyone wants to customize everything for their group, team, community, or any other use they may have for any software they use.
    It's 2016 and Microsoft is installing Windows 10 without the users' consent. I'm happy not everyone is breaking the laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by durangod View Post
    So why not allow admins to do the same on the server side? I want my community users to all have the same default theme when they use my teamspeak and i want to be able to set that via the admin settings.
    You answered your question yourself, which I highlighted. So there's no need for further answers.

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    Me thinks it was already mentioned here, that themes are client-side and its up to the user to decide whta theme he uses.
    Btw, in a good guild/clan/community the leaders talk with their users about such and may advise them to use specific themes, they do not enforce it.

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    A server administrator has no right to force some theme upon his users. This is not the business of the administrator. He may choose a theme that is appropriate for his own local highly customized desktop, but that is not appropriate for the half of his users who have totally different desktop appearances. Why does he bother about the look of the program on the client side he will never see himself?

    For example, these days, dark themes with low contrast text seem to be cool, but they are a nuisance for many users who desperately try to decipher the text on such interfaces. They will simply don't visit such servers.
    Most admins don't know anything about usability and productivity - with such a feature, they only force something upon their users they consider cool but their users see as impertinence.

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    To help answer the main question regarding your replies as to why.. Here is the reason.

    Its the same reason that teams have matching uniforms, the same reason that team websites and forums share the same look, the same reason that teams do everything together "For team spirit and cohesiveness" and to help bond the team. I am not forcing anyone to use the theme unless i select that option to do so, but that should be my choice as a admin. If i can decide permissions i can decide the theme, that is what a leader does.

    Also i understand that some people have a hard time seeing certain themes, this is why i chose the windows theme, its a light blue theme that is easy to read. I still believe this is a needed option and its time for TS to grow up and get with the times. Server admins need to be able to set the default style, to be a team, to be a part of something, isnt that what the "TEAM" in "TEAMSPEAK" is all about.

    If someone sees our uniforms they know we are a team, if someone sees our uniforms and our website and our forum and our TS all look similar then they feel a part of something bigger.

    Thats my reason.

    Something else too as an afterthought, if someone does not like the theme they can tell me and i can let them change it, also you say that admin should not force anyone. Well i have a US Flag on my TS, and im not changing it, so im forcing them to look at that too, but i can do that, why cant i do the style. The bottom line is that if they dont like the TS channel they can leave, its their choice. Let me be an admin and control my TS, thats all im asking.

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    This conversation is not over yet. So to whomever marked this as rejected and whomever manages the forums who allowed such a thing i have some words for you both as well as others. Including any forum moderators that exist and let this stuff happen again and again.

    When i make enough money to buy teamspeak. As soon as i sign those papers and i am the legal owner my very first mission as company owner is i am going to walk over to your desk and fire you both on the spot. So when that happens dont pout, dont act surprised, dont cry, just pack your stuff and ill have security escort you out of the building. And if you want to file unemployment go for it i wont stand in your way, i will tell them you were both incompetent and if they give it to you thats fine. I would rather have you collect unemployment than the poisen any more of my faithful users.

    Then i am going to fire any supervisor who approved this lame idea on a public forum that you thought it was cool or appropriate to stamp public requests as "rejected" or any other status for that matter. And that goes for the web designer and also any other supervisor involved in this betrayal of user confidence and social interaction. Your all gone...

    Then i will pull the plug on all of this forum and put up a forum that is friendly, suggestive, socialy interactive, non combative, and non judgemental. No more of this "rejected" BS that you seem to have now where you decide what is good and what is not as an individual, thats not your job. Oh arnt you so important, you have a rejected stamp you can use, wow and you use it with authority too dont you.

    That is not how you run a public company and connect with the public or users for that matter. TS do you happen to remember the early days when you were begging for users, for clients, for anyone that would promote your software by word of mouth.. Do you remember being hungry for that. Well i think over time you have forgotten what thats like, i think you have forgetten what it is to really want every user of your software to enjoy it, use it, talk about to others. But now you got big donors, your too big and successful to worry about that now arnt you.

    When i am owner i will remind every one of you how important every single user is for our success. I am not writing this because you didnt accept my idea, im old enough to know that not all ideas are good ideas. Its how you did it which concerns me "rejected", oh boy isnt that a great way to show thanks for using your product over the last 5 years... Great way to say thank you... "rejected" what a powerful word and it must make you feel so important to have that power..

    Well enjoy that power for the time being because if your still around when i buy the company, our next meeting will be to send you to the unemployment line along with all the others that seem to think that "rejected" is a great idea for any public venue...

    Have a great day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durangod View Post
    When i make enough money to buy teamspeak. As soon as i sign those papers and i am the legal owner my very first mission as company owner is i am going to walk over to your desk and fire you both on the spot. So when that happens dont pout, dont act surprised, dont cry, just pack your stuff and ill have security escort you out of the building. And if you want to file unemployment go for it i wont stand in your way, i will tell them you were both incompetent and if they give it to you thats fine. I would rather have you collect unemployment than the poisen any more of my faithful users.

    Then i am going to fire any supervisor who approved this lame idea on a public forum that you thought it was cool or appropriate to stamp public requests as "rejected" or any other status for that matter. And that goes for the web designer and also any other supervisor involved in this betrayal of user confidence and social interaction. Your all gone...

    Then i will pull the plug on all of this forum and put up a forum that is friendly, suggestive, socialy interactive, non combative, and non judgemental. No more of this "rejected" BS that you seem to have now where you decide what is good and what is not as an individual, thats not your job.
    I lol'd.

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    sounds like a sore (l)user...

    And who told you me would sell the company to you?

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    Actually, I really like the idea of allowing the server to adjust the client UI. Of course, every user should be able to set an option to disable this functionality, but I would love to see servers with a different look-and-feel using custom icons, background images and more.

    I don't think it's impossible that TeamSpeak will provide a feature like this in the future, but first, we'll have to polish our entire UI in general... give it a modern touch. After that, we'll see what happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by durangod View Post
    Then i will pull the plug on all of this forum and put up a forum that is friendly, suggestive, socialy interactive, non combative, and non judgemental. No more of this "rejected" BS that you seem to have now where you decide what is good and what is not as an individual, thats not your job. Oh arnt you so important, you have a rejected stamp you can use, wow and you use it with authority too dont you.
    I fully agree with that. We are not better than any of you and I always found the "Rejected" tag quite offensive. People who care about our product and take the time to register and share their ideas should not be treated like this.

    This is a community forum after all. There should be no deletion of postings, no censoring, no language restrictions and no arrogant responses from any of us. I'd like to see these forums come back to the point they were years ago. A place where TeamSpeak users helped other TeamSpeak users and where people shared their thoughts about our software. Sure, sometimes we have to delete postings that clearly violate the rules of our forum - such as advertisements, links to malicious software, etc. But these should be the only cases when someone of our team must intervene.

    Anyway... we're not perfect and we know that. We are working on that part.
    Last edited by ScP; August 19th, 2016 at 11:24 PM. Reason: may I keep my job? pretty please? :-D

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    With those cloud servers you got now, server side themes would be a great addon. I personally like the idea of server side themes, WITH the option to revert back to the original theme and or possibly choosing from an array of server sided themes.

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    ScP,

    of course you can , and i know you understand i was just trying to make a point. Its just sad when companies (not just TS) need users until they get big and then that attitude seems to change and they forget what it was like being hungry for business and making each user feel special. Rejected is such a negative word and really has no business being used the way it is, it sends the wrong message.

    However on topic, i just think that having that ability from a admin perspective would give unification to any team. Yes i know that admin cant see it or use it on the users side of other users. But when users feel like everyone is wearing the same uniform, it bonds them. And after all wouldnt this fall under "if you dont prefer it then dont join the team". This is something that admin should control, whether or not admin chooses to make it manditory or not should be up to the admin.

    Thanks for listening

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