TS5 discussion continues

[ScP]

Finally some questions!

Question 1 @ScP: Will there be an global chat system like discord, accessible by Mobile App, Browser and Client?

I can neither confirm nor deny... blah blah... seriously... if you look at the images we've published, the answer should be quite obvious, right?

Question 2 @ScP: A solid date for the closed beta?

We have a release date in mind, but we don't want to make the Q4 2018 mistake again... We'll announce a release date when we're 100% sure we're ready for beta.

Question 3 @ ScP: Who decides when the Alpha is done? you?

It's TeamSpeak so we decide as a team... but yes, I have a part in this decision. So feel free to blame me.

Question 4 @ScP: When will the winners get their keys, i mean they won...didn't they?

They will get access as soon as possible. Yes, they have won and we'll make up for the delay somehow.

Question 5 @ScP: Will the Chat messages get stored on the local server itself as well?

It depends. For TeamSpeak Server based chats, we have a lot of ideas to improve the functionality to make them better, but right now we have another priority.

Question 6 @ScP: Does TS5 have the same outrages rights system than TS3?

TS5 and TS3 clients are interoperable, use the same server and the same permission system. Obviously, we'll do a better job in making the permission system more "accessible" for users in the TS5 UI over time.

Question 7 @ScP: How will the interaction between TS3 and TS5 client work? do TS3 clients have access to the TS5 Chat system somehow?

The TeamSpeak 3 Client will remain a citizen in our ecosystem and we will continue to support it. However, our priorities will shift to TS5 and its development and right now, we do not plan to add TS5 features to TS3 clients as our old UI is confusing enough.

Question 8 @ScP: same question like Nr.7 just for the Avatars

Again... it depends.

Question 9 @ScP: When does the plattform coming out to collect user feedback?

We're testing a new platform with out closed alpha testers. We will have something ready when closed beta starts.

Question 10 @ScP: Will there be an new Overlay directly from Teamspeak?

Yes, we'd like to provide a minimalistic cross-platform solution... but not with the initial release.

Question 11 @ScP: Do you know a other word besides "soon"?

I'm sure there are quite a few ways to say it... but I'll stick with soon.

Are they still on Alpha version 254?

Yes. We try to push out new alpha builds on daily basis, but sometimes we work on quite substantial changes. Like I stated earlier, active development of TS5 began in April 2018 so you can device the number of days by the number of alpha builds to get a better idea. If you're interested, here's a graph showing the commit stats for the last 2000 commits that were made in the TS5 client repo:



So you can see we're pretty much working every day around the clock to get things done.

I would really like to see specific information from the developers about when TeamSpeak5 will appear in an open beta test for users?

Right now, we're in closed alpha. Soon, we'll start closed beta where we'll invite all the people who've registered in subsequent waves. After that, we'll launch open beta.

And will you update the Mobile App till then as well?

There won't be a mobile TS5 client when Beta begins.

Will Teamspeak 5 have an notify system?

Yes there will be notifications for some events and we will use the notification system from the operation system.

How do we look on the web client?

There is none yet.

Is it official tho that TeamSpeak is doing away with the numbers (TS5/TS3) and just becoming TeamSpeak? (Which imo is a smart idea).

Yes it will be TeamSpeak Client and Server.

Will TeamSpeak 3 retain it's name or be called something else?

Will TeamSpeak 3 still be promoted for download on your site or will it be a little out of sight?

The name stays. The support continuous and the TS3 clients still will get some love.
Can't say at the moment when TS3 starts vanishing form the website.

Is it still possible to put rank names in front of your name via the permission system? e.g. [ADMIN]

The client will not show the name in server tree. Can't say yet if that feature will return.

Is it still possible to set a server banner (the one in the screenshot from last page looks more like a channel banner)?

Server banners may get replaced.

Will there be a native game-overlay? Or is one planned?

Yes we will add an own overlay. but not with initial release.

And will TS5 have an File Manager?

Yes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0REroLU8AIrQgI.jpg

On that Image there, where it says developers developers developers, is that a channel avatar and channel banner there?

Yes that is a channel Banner. **The design may change for first release.
Channel Banners are only available in TS5. They differ from setting images into the description.

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Again... I value all of your opinions, but I want to limit this thread to constructive feedback and meaningful questions. Everything else will be deleted without any comment.

[ScP]

@ScP ok ok got it but come on at least give us the year. Will it be soon 2019 or soon 2020 ?

2020 is not my definition of soon...

[Shystriknsk]

We have a release date in mind, but we don't want to make the Q4 2018 mistake again... We'll announce a release date when we're 100% sure we're ready for beta.

So why not increase the number of alpha testers for faster testing? As following the example of the gaming industry, where a considerable number of people are invited to the alpha and the tests pass on time, and not like where you test 10 people from what I think. It will be wiser to give access to alpha to at least 200-300 people.

[TwentyFour]

So why not increase the number of alpha testers for faster testing? As following the example of the gaming industry, where a considerable number of people are invited to the alpha and the tests pass on time, and not like where you test 10 people from what I think. It will be wiser to give access to alpha to at least 200-300 people.

So you imply that the reason of the - in your opinion - slow progress is the lack of testers? I highly doubt that.
Your 200-300 people are coming with the closed beta, in TeamSpeak's case.

You can have two projects with the same progress towards the finish. Just because one developer calls it "Alpha" and the other one names it "Beta", it is still in the same state of being finished.

I can understand you point, but I guess thats highly based on the demand to get your own hands on the client. I mean same goes for me, but still, without any insights how they develop it, it's pretty unfair to criticise their methods, just based on (coming or missing) results.

[ScP]

So why not increase the number of alpha testers for faster testing? As following the example of the gaming industry, where a considerable number of people are invited to the alpha and the tests pass on time, and not like where you test 10 people from what I think. It will be wiser to give access to alpha to at least 200-300 people.

Right now, we have around 60 people testing the alpha (including friends, family, trusted users and business partners). We're in a phase of development where we're tweaking things in the UI on a daily basis to give it a final touch for the beta... and even when we're in beta, I still think the UI is subject to change based on community feedback. It's "Your Team. Your Rules." after all.

We're trying to create an awesome user-experience for you... we're still TeamSpeak... not another Slack for gamers like our competitors.

[Saelyth]

Will the Beta have any NDA or will people be able to show others how ts5 is on the Beta? Asking because otherwise those of us who didn't make it to the beta are looking at... extra months? of waiting.

[Dragon34]

@ScP

I have a question is a new site is also in preparation compatible with all languages and much more dynamic and understandable?

[boehseronkel]

Will TS5 be Desktop Client only? Or will there be a Web Client aswell?

Will there be an increase in Voice / Codec quality (TS3 and or TS5)?

Will it be possible to share pictures and video files directly in the (channel) chat?

Why do you want to keep TS3 Client active? Because of lower system requirements or professional users / authorities?
E.g. TS5 for Gamers and Communities and TS3 for Corporates.

[Bituspy]

Well as we know for a fact that not a single person except ScP cares to respond i also have a few questions for you sir.

1) How much work according to you in terms of percentage 1-100% is remaining from the target set before you can release the server on beta.

2) The new server for TS5 will consume more hardware than its normal usage?

3) Now that you have mentioned that you are only using 60 people to test this stuff I'd also give suggestion to trust people more and reach out to more people like servers with sponsorship license and many others. If you think 60 people can test something out it will take a miracle to bring a closed beta version in 2019

2020 is not my definition of soon...

4)Your definition of soon might not be 2020 but after the debacle of Q4 2018 there is nothing certain for sure and you know it. So why don't you release your microsite and keep the public involved?

5) Do u plan on integrating steam with TS5? I assume this would be a feature to match up with discord for good.

6) What happens to the current channel chats? Will that still remain a thing on TS5? Or you will create chat channels and voice channels differently?

7) My last question comes directly from my friends with low end pc: TS3 vs TS5 which one eats more RAM and CPU usage? Is the difference too large for noob PC's to use the new version?

[ScP]

Will the Beta have any NDA or will people be able to show others how ts5 is on the Beta?

No, but you won't be able to use the beta without an account that's unlocked for TS5.

I have a question is a new site is also in preparation compatible with all languages and much more dynamic and understandable?

I'm not sure what site you're refering too, but... yes, we're going to update all of our sites over time.

Will TS5 be Desktop Client only? Or will there be a Web Client aswell?

Desktop first... more will follow.

Will there be an increase in Voice / Codec quality (TS3 and or TS5)?

We're working on several things to improve audio quality and make things easier.

Will it be possible to share pictures and video files directly in the (channel) chat?

Just look at the images we've already shared and you'll have your answer.

Why do you want to keep TS3 Client active? Because of lower system requirements or professional users / authorities?

I guess a lot of people will prefer the old-school TS3 experience so as long as we can support TS3 we'll do that.

1) How much work according to you in terms of percentage 1-100% is remaining from the target set before you can release the server on beta.

π maybe?

2) The new server for TS5 will consume more hardware than its normal usage?

There is no new server.

5) Do u plan on integrating steam with TS5? I assume this would be a feature to match up with discord for good.

We already have an integration service for Twitch and we’ll add new features over time.

6) What happens to the current channel chats? Will that still remain a thing on TS5? Or you will create chat channels and voice channels differently?

Yes, channel based chats are still a thing.

7) My last question comes directly from my friends with low end pc: TS3 vs TS5 which one eats more RAM and CPU usage? Is the difference too large for noob PC's to use the new version?

Obviously, a modern UI will need more RAM than the Qt based UI in TS3. In terms of CPU usage, I'd say the requirements of TS5 are about the same if not lower.

[boehseronkel]

Thank you for the (very promising) answers

As a software developer myself i am quite excited what you guys will bring us with TS5.

Also the news on RAM and CPU usage are well appreciated.
So my hopes are high that TS5 will be completely native and well optimized, not like that awful Web-Apps or the need for an runtime environment.

[ScP]

Does this mean that right now no mobile app / web client exist from TS5? Not even a very very early Alpha?

We're working on updates for our mobile apps, but they won't be available when the TS5 beta begins.

Pie is 3.14 does this mean you are 3.14 % away from the beta? or is it a ironic way of answering a question what contra indicts your wish for meaningful questions...when you start to troll?

Well... it's hard to give you an exact number. Developing software is not like building a brick wall... you can't take the total number of bricks and extrapolate a release date. Anyway... I'd say we're definitely more than 90% ready for beta.

btw the Alpha number didn't move a thing in the last 5 days it is still 254...is this a good or a bad sign?

Actually, we're at alpha255. Please note, that a build number (or a Git tag name in this case) is not a reliable indicator for progress.

And maybe the most anticipated questions of all time for teamspeak...who is in charge of this silence/communication mess with the community. Are you even able to answer this without getting fired? but since you say Teamspeak is a team you maybe can shed some light. It would help repairing the rift that gor created with this mess.

I'm not pointing fingers. We are a team... and as such... a ball dropped by any of us is a ball dropped by all of us. Feel free to blame me if you need a scapegoat.

[boehseronkel]

@scp do you know if the mobile Apps gets an update to Version 5? (iOS and Android)

He answered this question already

We're working on updates for our mobile apps, but they won't be available when the TS5 beta begins.

[Fubister]

I know you mentioned that server will be pretty much untouched, but I was wondering if we can count for a server to run on ARM CPU's in the future?

[AGamer]

Constructive feedback:

What do you think in terms of Teamspeak doing away with numerical notations, ex: TS"3" TS"5", and just call the product Teamspeak for the final release, nothing else is needed. I'm not talking about version numbers, just the whole TeamSpeak 2,3,5... Many people are confused by this and it would certainly make it easier for users on the whole server/client as well as a marketing perspective.


Question:

Similar to the TeamSpeak 3 beta where it was 2 years until fully released and features ceased to be implemented. Will this happen with TeamSpeak 5 as well? Has TeamSpeak changed its way of doing things and vowed that when TeamSpeak 5 is fully released that it will still be honored with features and changes wanted by users, which hasn't happened with TS3?