Server Admin Permissions Glitched(?) On My Server??

[Bisquik]

When I am in the Lobby (Home, Default channel) I can modify permissions on people. When I leave the Lobby, I cannot change client permissions (it doesn't matter where the target client is located).

As ServerAdmin I cannot even change my own permissions when my client is out of the Lobby area.

I have compared all of my server group permissions with an identically setup Linux version of the server and I don't have any problems on that one.

Other ServerAdmin clients are not having this problem.

Is my server glitched somehow? Am I missing something?

[Bisquik]

I seem to have locked down the problem and it does seem to be a glitch.

I had modified my own CLIENT PERMISSIONS. The modifications that seem to be affecting me are the Group->Modify->Group Member Add Power (and Group Member Remove Power). When I activate them (with a power of 75), then the Server Groups become greyed out (depending on the "Add" or "Remove" situation).

I did the same thing on the Linux server and it didn't have this effect of greying out the Server Group choices when you right click on a client.

[lightpsycho]

I miss some information but somehow I assume you have messed up with a higherr tier permission against your servergroup (Tier 1) permission - or you used the Grant Permission. I can't say yet either I am too tired rn or I just can't see enough information for this.
Start at: Is the skip flag enabled for the Admin servergroup? How did you compare your permissions? Did you check all channelgroup permissions, client permissions and channel client permissions as well?
Maybe somebody else will be faster than me - I gotta work a lot tomorrow and need to sleep hardly. If nobody else replies I try to stay in touch.

[Bisquik]

Thanks for the reply lightpsycho.

The "Skip flag" is enabled.

It is a new server install and I copied all the server group settings from a linux server of the same version (3.9.1). Outside of the server group settings (on both servers), the only setting that was changed was Client Permission mentioned above. It was changed on both the Windows and Linux servers for the same client (my main computer, that is not running the server).

Something else that I noticed was that when I made a lower level Admin group with lower permission levels (exactly the same as on the linux server), on the Windows server the lower Admins could alter my Server Admin setting - removing it and replacing it. While on the linux server this cannot be done.

Since this is a new install, I will try removing the Windows server and then reinstalling it. I will copy the settings again to see what happens. Perhaps I played with something on accident on I just can't find it? I will keep you informed.

[Bisquik]

I deleted the Windows server and then reinstalled it. The same thing happens. When I am in the original install default channel as Server Admin, I can change other client server groups. When I switch to a created channel, the Server Group options on the right-click menu become greyed out (IF the CLIENT permissions have been changed as above in the first post).

I copied the linux server permissions exactly and this doesn't happen on that server with the CLIENT permissions changed.

UPDATE EDIT: I installed the Windows server version 3.8.0. to see if it was just the current version that had this issue. 3.8.0 also does the same thing. In this case, all I did was install the server, change my own CLIENT permissions as stated in the first post, and if my client is in the original Default Channel I can change another user's Group Permissions with a right click. When I create a new permanent channel and move into it, the right click Group Permissions become greyed out as in 3.9.1. EVERY other setting was left alone.

FYI, this is 64-bit server. (Edit: It also happened with the Windows 32 bit server too).

Here is a picture of it happening in version 3.9.1:
Edit: Picture taken down.

[Bisquik]

I was able to reproduce this glitch in the Windows server version. Can someone else please try to recreate it? It might just be my client that is screwed up and not the server.

As the Server Admin, change your own CLIENT settings. Here is my quote from above:

I had modified my own CLIENT PERMISSIONS. The modifications that seem to be affecting me are the Group->Modify->Group Member Add Power (and Group Member Remove Power). When I activate them (with a power of 75), then the Server Groups become greyed out (depending on the "Add" or "Remove" situation).

So change your CLIENT permissions and then make sure you are not in the Default Channel (my SERVER permissions would oddly be fine there). Try to change another client's permissions (or even your own!). They are greyed out for me. Even with a new server, I can't even select things like "Normal."

This is an important problem since some server owners like to give their own CLIENT these permissions to make sure a rogue admin can't take away their permissions from them on their own server.

[dante696]

I still think a channel group overwrites your permissions.
Have you tried removing the Channel Admin group in the "Working but Online" channel?

You repeated that it doesn't work as Server admin but on your Screenshot your are in a custom group? That's why i think your group may miss permissions or flags.
Could you please show a permissions overview from your own client when you are in the lobby and when you are in the working channel???

[Bisquik]

Should a channel group be effected by changing CLIENT permissions? If anything, I gave myself more permissions to assign groups to myself through CLIENT permissions. I don't see why changing CLIENT permissions on myself would all of a sudden not allow me to assign groups.

The strange thing is that on the Linux server, with the exact same settings, everything is fine. On the Windows server, that is when the strange glitch occurs. I installed a fresh server on a computer, and made one new channel and was able to repeat the situation described above after giving my Client permissions as listed in earlier posts.

[Bisquik]

It will be easy to test for yourself. Just load a server onto a Windows PC (I put it on Windows Home Server 2011), log in and enter the admin code, make a permanent channel and move into it. Give yourself the CLIENT permissions I listed above and then see if your server groups (Server Admin and Normal) are greyed out when you right-click on yourself when you are in the new channel. If you move into the Default channel, they are not greyed out.

[lightpsycho]

Hey Bisquik,
sry for replying so late after your posts. I was too busy... I will be back on my PC at the 2nd of September - if you want you can catch me up, also over skype, just look into my description or write me a PM here and I will try to help you. I will read through the whole thread on this day as well.
Cheers and just keep your hopes

[Bisquik]

This isn't an emergency for me personally. It is just a glitch (I think) I found. It is annoying, but I am currently working around it. I would be interested to know if anyone else can duplicate the situation I described above. Maybe it is just me?

[dante696]

I still require a permissions overview for this. I mean in the channel where it becomes Grey for you.
Please do not post a screenshot. I want them all (right click on yourself in channel -> Permissions -> Perm. Overview -> Export as text).

No i can not reproduce by just setting 2 permissions.

[Bisquik]

Thank you again for your help. Here is the export you requested.

Client
Channel
Working But Online
Needed Channel Permission Modify Power 75
Needed Channel Modify Power 75
Needed Channel Delete Power 75
Icon ID -1869176255
Channel Groups
Channel Admin
Create Channel with Minimum Latency Factor 1
Change Channel Type to Temporary 1
Modify Channel Name 1
Modify Channel Topic 1
Modify Channel Description 1
Modify Channel Password 1
Modify Channel Codec 1
Modify Channel Codec Quality 1
Modify Channel Latency Factor 1
Modify Channel Max Clients 1
Modify Channel Max Family Clients 1
Modify Channel Needed Talk Power 1
Modify Channel Voice Encryption 1
Delete Semi-Permanent Channels 1
Delete Temporary Channels 1
Force Deletion of Channels 1
Channel Delete Power 50
Channel Description View Power 50
Group is Permanent 1
Group Auto Update Type 40
Needed Group Modify Power 75
Group Member Add Power 50
Needed Group Member Add Power 50
Group Member Remove Power 50
Needed Group Member Remove Power 50
Use Channel Commander 1
Client Kick from Channel Power 50
Needed Client Kick from Channel Power 50
Client Move Power 50
Needed Client Complain Power 25
Client Talk Power 60
Grant Talk Power 1
Channel Client
All
ServerQuery: View Virtual Server Info 1 0 0 75
View Virtual Server Connection Info 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View List of existing Channels 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Search for Channels 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View List of Clients online 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Search for Clients online 1 0 0 75
View List of known Client Identities from Database 1 0 0 75
Search for known Client Identities in Database 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View Client Database Information 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Search for Permission Assignments 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Search for Custom Client Properties 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Start this Virtual Server 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Stop this Virtual Server 1 0 0 75
View List of available Privilege Keys 1 0 0 75
Create new Privilege Key 1 0 0 75
Use Privilege Keys to gain permissions 1 0 0 75
Delete Privilege Key 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View Virtual Server Logs 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Write to Virtual Server Log 1 0 0 75
Ignore Virtual Server Password 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Register for Event Notifications 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Unregister from Event Notifications 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Name 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Welcome Message 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Max Clients 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Reserved Slots 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Password 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Default Server Group 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Default Channel Group 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Channel Admin Group 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Force Silence Limit 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Complaint Settings 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Anti-Flood Settings 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server File-Transfer Settings 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server File-Transfer Quotas 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Host Message 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Host Banner 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Host Button 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Port 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Autostart Behaviour 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Security Level 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Priority Speaker Dimm Modificator 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Log Settings 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Min Client Version 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Icon ID 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Announcement on Weblist 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Voice Encryption 1 0 0 75
Manage temporary server passwords 1 0 0 75
Manage own temporary server passwords 75
Edit default of temporary channel delete delay 1 0 0 75
Modify Virtual Server Nicknames 1 0 0 75
Modify Integrations 1 0 0 75
Channel Min Depth 75
Channel Max Depth 10 0 0 75
Stop Channel Group Inheritance 75
Channel Permission Modify Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Channel Permission Modify Power 75
ServerQuery: View Channel Info 1 0 0 75
Create Sub-Channels 1 0 0 75
Create Permanent Channels 1 0 0 75
Create Semi-Permanent Channels 1 0 0 75
Create Temporary Channels 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Topic 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Description 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Password 1 0 0 75
b_channel_create_with_banner 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Opus Voice Codec 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Opus Music Codec 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Max Codec Quality 10 0 0 75
Create Channel with Minimum Latency Factor 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Max Clients 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Max Family Clients 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Sort Order 1 0 0 75
Create Default Channel 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Needed Talk Power 1 0 0 75
Create Channels with Password only 75
Temporary channel delete delay 86400 0 0 75
Move Channels 1 0 0 75
Change Channel Type to Default 1 0 0 75
Change Channel Type to Permanent 1 0 0 75
Change Channel Type to Semi-Permanent 1 0 0 75
Change Channel Type to Temporary 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Name 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Topic 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Description 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Password 1 0 0 75
b_channel_modify_banner 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Codec 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Codec Quality 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Latency Factor 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Max Clients 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Max Family Clients 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Sort Order 1 0 0 75
Modify Channel Needed Talk Power 1 0 0 75
Channel Modify Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Channel Modify Power 75
Modify Channel Voice Encryption 1 0 0 75
Modify temporary channel delete delay 1 0 0 75
Delete Permanent Channels 1 0 0 75
Delete Semi-Permanent Channels 1 0 0 75
Delete Temporary Channels 1 0 0 75
Force Deletion of Channels 1 0 0 75
Channel Delete Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Channel Delete Power 75
Join Permanent Channels 1 0 0 75
Join Semi-Permanent Channels 1 0 0 75
Join Temporary Channels 1 0 0 75
Ignore Channel Passwords 1 0 0 75
Ignore Channel Max Clients 1 0 0 75
Channel Join Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Channel Join Power 75
Channel Subscribe Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Channel Subscribe Power 75
Channel Description View Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Channel Description View Power 75
Icon ID 989256991 0 0
Icon Max Filesize (Bytes) 8192 0 0 75
Manage Icons 1 0 0 75
Group is Permanent 1 0 0 75
Group Auto Update Type 45 0 0 75
Group Auto Update Max Value 45 0 0
Group Sort ID 75
Show Group Name in Tree 75
ServerQuery: View List of Server Groups 1 0 0 75
View List of Server Group Permissions 1 0 0 75
View List of Server Group Members 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View List of Channel Groups 1 0 0 75
View List of Channel Group Permissions 1 0 0 75
View List of Channel Group Members 1 0 0 75
View List of Client Permissions 1 0 0 75
View List of Channel Permissions 1 0 0 75
View List of Channel Client Permissions 1 0 0 75
Create new Server Groups 1 0 0 75
Create new Channel Groups 1 0 0 75
Group Modify Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Group Modify Power 75 0 0 75
Group Member Add Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Group Member Add Power 75 0 0 75
Group Member Remove Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Group Member Remove Power 75 0 0 75
Permission Modify Power 75 0 0 75
Delete existing Server Group 1 0 0 75
Delete existing Channel Group 1 0 0 75
Client Permission Modify Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Permission Modify Power 75 0 0 75
Max number of additional connections per Identity 10 0 0 75
Max Idle time (Seconds) 75
Max Avatar Filesize (Bytes) 512000 0 0 75
Max Channel Subscriptions -1 0 0 75
Client is Priority Speaker 75
Skip Channel Group Permissions 1 0 0 75
Force Push To Talk 75
Ignore Bans 1 0 0 75
Ignore Anti-Flood Measurements 1 0 0 75
Use Reserved Slots 1 0 0 75
Use Channel Commander 1 0 0 75
Request talk power in moderated channels 1 0 0 75
Delete other clients avatar 1 0 0 75
Sticky client 75
Ignore sticky client permission 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View Client Info 1 0 0 75
View Client Permission Overview 1 0 0 75
View Own Client Permission Overview 1 0 0 75
View Client Remote Address 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery Client View Power 75 0 0 75
Needed ServerQuery Client View Power 75 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View Custom Client Properties 1 0 0 75
Client Kick From Server Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Kick From Server Power 75 0 0 75
Client Kick from Channel Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Kick from Channel Power 75 0 0 75
Client Ban From Server Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Ban Power 75 0 0 75
Client Move Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Move Power 75 0 0 75
Client Complain Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Complain Power 75 0 0 75
View List of Client Complaints 1 0 0 75
Delete own Complaints 1 0 0 75
Delete all Complaints 1 0 0 75
View List of Ban Rules 1 0 0 75
Create new Ban Rules 1 0 0 75
Delete own Ban Rules 1 0 0 75
Delete all Ban Rules 1 0 0 75
Max Time for Ban Rules in seconds -1 0 0 75
Private Textmessage Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Private Textmessage Power 75
Send Text Messages to Server 1 0 0 75
Send Text Messages to Channel 1 0 0 75
Send Text Messages to Offline Clients 1 0 0 75
Client Talk Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Talk Power 75
Client Poke Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Client Poke Power 75
Grant Talk Power 1 0 0 75
Client Whisper Power 75
Needed Client Whisper Power 75
Modify all Client Descriptions 1 0 0 75
Modify own Client Description 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: Modify Client Settings 1 0 0 75
Delete Client Database Properties 1 0 0 75
Create a ServerQuery Account 1 0 0 75
Browse files without channel password 1 0 0 75
ServerQuery: View List of active File-Transfers 1 0 0 75
File Upload Power 75 0 0 75
Needed File Upload Power 75
File Download Power 75 0 0 75
Needed File Download Power 75
File Delete Power 75 0 0 75
Needed File Delete Power 75
File Rename Power 75 0 0 75
Needed File Rename Power 75
File Browse Power 75 0 0 75
Needed File Browse Power 75
Directory Create Power 75 0 0 75
Needed Directory Create Power 75
Download Quota per Client (MByte) -1 0 0 75
Upload Quota per Client (MByte) -1 0 0 75

[dante696]

Didn't you say you set client permissions? I don't see any?
Why did you cut off Server groups?

From the parts i miss and mentioned it looks good but i require a full overview and with the mentioned permission setup?

[Bisquik]

That is odd. I thought I put the whole file up there. Maybe there was too much text for the post? I will attach the text file this time.

Is this better?

And thank you again for looking into this.