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  1. #1
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    Solved Reactivate the permission b_channel_join_ignore_password

    repost.
    * Allow b_channel_join_ignore_password for server groups and global client
    permissions only, others make no sense.

    YES IT DID! Now you have gone and screwed up my permissions. My clients that are in a Normal group can not normally access password protected channels. We have various password protected channels that some of the people in our Normal group have been given access to via this permission, not everyone has access to necessarily the same set of rooms.
    "Just give them the password" you say. yeah, not a good idea, that just invites trouble of them giving it to someone else "for one time only, promise not to do it again" situations. It is more secure to allow the individuals access via the ignore password then to give out the password.

    Please change this BACK to the way it was!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alcazar
    Or use client permissions and give those users that permission.

    That's what they took away was the client permission. I could give people access to a single channel using the client permission version of ignore password. This is now gone.

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    Originally Posted by ZeroTKA
    If they give away the password, then change the password and don't give it to them.

    Id rather just leave a long, strong password on the channel and give people permission. MUCH MUCH MORE SECURE! Including from the TS hackers. I can't wait for that to start. We'll see how good this thing is then!

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    Originally Posted by R. Ludwig
    what ? you can set that permission still on servergroups AND global client.
    all other just makes no sense


    Global client or server group is fine for global access. However, if you have a person that you want to allow access to ONE particular passworded channel, WITHOUT giving out a password, you can no longer do that. We were able to set IGNORE PASSWORD on that client's permissions for INDIVIDUAL channels, and can NOT do that now. Like i said, that is a MORE SECURE way of doing it than giving out passwords. Plus you don't have to worry about changing the password should you throw the person out, or they leave or whatever.

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    Originally Posted by Alcazar
    If you dont like TS, feel free to use other voicechat-programms.
    Youre not obliged to use it.
    And ranting will not change anything
    .

    Just saying they should never took out a feature that was already in use. I especially had it in use quite a bit and it really messed up my permissions for everyone. There was a point to the feature obviously, as it was being used, so why get rid of something that worked? Like I said, FAIL TEAMSPEAK, wasting time removing something that worked just fine, while things that are broken go untouched still. If that's ranting then so is the entire suggestion forum, isn't that just people ranting about something they want added to teamspeak? If they don't like it they can use another one too then right? I'm not asking for a NEW feature, just one that we already had given back.

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    Originally Posted by azzy101
    you cannot please everyone

    yet no one complained about having the permission, but i am complaining about losing it as it was heavily in use. so why was it removed again? oh wait, cuz no one complained about it. might as well take half the features out then, you know all the other ones no one has complained about having because they like them and use them already.

    freaking trolls. if your not part of the solution stay out of the conversation

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    Originally Posted by PatrickW
    I would say: Make that group a server group! Everything else really doesn't make sense, because all other rights are restricted to one channel, whereas the right gave access to all password protected channels.

    no it wasnt, you could set it on a channel by channel basis for an individual.

    So anyways, like I was saying, it made PERFECT sense to allow an individual access to a single channel using the permission without giving them the password. I don't even know what the passwords are as I use a strong password generator and just copy/paste it into the channel, so why would I want to give that out? It just compromises security. Put back what wasn't broken in the first place.

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    Here is how you can allow a certain group of individuals access to a channel:

    Put the needed_join_power to join the channel X to some high value (999) in the channel permissions.
    Create a channel group that should allow you to join a channel. Put all users that should be able to enter channel "X" into this group, in channel X. Make sure this channel group has a join_power that is high enough to join the channel (>= 999).

    As result only clients that are in this channel group can join, you have the same access control like you did with random password + ignore passwords, except that there is no "dummy password" that you need to generate.
    You think my answer is stupid ? Read This:
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    That creates an awful lot of channel groups. The original method was still much simpler.

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    Why should is be simple, using a right for this. If you use user-based-rights, if local or global doesn'm mind, but you have to remember, who has this rights.
    With using a group, you can see, who is member of this group. You do not need to remember, who has the rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master_D View Post
    Why should is be simple, using a right for this. If you use user-based-rights, if local or global doesn'm mind, but you have to remember, who has this rights.
    With using a group, you can see, who is member of this group. You do not need to remember, who has the rights.
    And of course you can use a temporary group, than you don't have to remember who has rights to join the channel.

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    then i just hope for you that u dont have many, permanent growing groups... otherwise you have a lot to do :)
    second point is that you cant "invite" a guest to your channel. if you cant switch him you have to meet him "outside"

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    [Suggestion] Re-enable b_channel_join_ignore_password on channel groups.

    I don't understand why it was removed in the first place, but b_channel_join_ignore_password isn't assignable on Channel Groups or Channel Client Permissions. I believe it was removed in one of the server builds for reason "Fixed Conflicting Channel Permissions" or something similar. I don't see anything that would cause problems on this level, as long as it is nonassignable on Channel Permissions.

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    With an Channel Permission you have only the Right when you are IN the Channel!

    So ignore Password don't work for Channel Groups!

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    We already have such a thread and it is not possible to use it that way.

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    [Suggestion] Enable b_channel_join_ignore_password for Channel groups

    Well like the title says pleas enable b_channel_join_ignore_password for channel groups

    honestly i do not even get why it is disabled

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    As our two helpful users often said - use search function.
    This option has been disabled long time ago and wont be reactivated.

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    Right for some reason it was thought to be a confusing unneeded permission. I think it is a good permission to have. I've asked for its return. I think at the every least it is good that you can set ignore password on the channel admin group. This group should always have access to a channel, even if another channel admin set a password. Some will say that the Channel admin wanting to access the channel can edit the password and then enter... what if that was the only channel they have admin in? I know if older builds if you didn't have password edit permissions in the channel you are residing in you were unable to edit it in channels you have that permission in. I've not retested this in a while, maybe I'll test it again in a week or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcazar View Post
    As our two helpful users often said - use search function.
    This option has been disabled long time ago and wont be reactivated.
    Use search function if tried and the search function doesn't work at all for me

    Second i don't see why it should be disabled to start with if the people running the server and the don't want that function then the just don't enable it simple as that?

    if you have a extremely good reason why it should be disabled then pleas give it but i currently do not see any single reason at all why it shouldnt be enabled

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    Solved Channel Client Permissions, can't set b_channel_join_ignore_password

    Client 3.0.0-rc2-pre1 [Build: 14385] (Windows 7)
    Server 3.0.0-rc1 [Build: 14399] (Linux)

    I'm trying to set in Channel Client Permissions the permission b_channel_join_ignore_password so that one specific client can join one specific channel without having to enter the password. This permission can't be added.

    Bug perhaps? Or is there a reason that this permission can't be added

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