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    License changes Feedback (10 to 2 servers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dante696 View Post
    I talked to Sales and got this statement and the permission to write this.

    NPL issued before Jun 2014
    All NPL's with 10 virtual server and 512 slots will be renewed automatically with the same condition.

    But you will loose this condition for following reasons:
    1. Abuse of that license (selling, hosting for others etc.)
    2. Your license did not renew, because the server was inactive

    NPL issued after Jun 2014 / Or you want to request a NPL
    Your license will be renewed with 2 virtual server and 512 slots.

    There is no way to get a NPL with 10 virtual server.
    Please do not create tickets for this. This condition is only for the old license type.

    This was an official feedback, since there are no news about the situation.

    Really, that news ticker in the client should have been used for both of these news headlines. NPL update should have been pushed to everyone, yet this is the first I've heard about it, a week later, was it even announced in forum? I'm not happy about the 2 V-server change at all though. Currently have PlanetSide Outfit, RR7 racers, family server, Ingress server and a test server... If I want to keep the test server I now can only have 1 public server. I really like separate servers for different groups of people I associate with, permissions merging these servers into a single v-server so that a group from one have no influence on another would be a nightmare. Maybe I'll revert the less used servers to TeamSpeak 2 where I still have a 1024 slot license.

    You want a way to crack down on piracy? Use the news ticker to get users to police the servers they are renting/using and report them themselves. Most people don't know how to know if the server they are using is pirated. Have a link in the news ticker to a page about "How to Determine if Your Server is Legal". Cover checking slot count / license type, if "No license" and more than 32 slots, illegal. If NPL and more than 512, illegal. If NPL and they are paying or asked to pay anything, illegal. If their server appears to be illegal instruct them on how to report the server address to you for review. Some users on those server will realize the server they are using is illegal and they didn't even know it. Stop blacklist evasion by editing data on client systems, have TS3 client review the address it gets for the blacklist server and if it looks really wrong (you would know) have the client reject connecting to any server.
    Last edited by dante696; June 30th, 2017 at 07:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screech View Post
    Really, that news ticker in the client should have been used for both of these news headlines. NPL update should have been pushed to everyone, yet this is the first I've heard about it, a week later, was it even announced in forum? I'm not happy about the 2 V-server change at all though. Currently have PlanetSide Outfit, RR7 racers, family server, Ingress server and a test server... If I want to keep the test server I now can only have 1 public server. I really like separate servers for different groups of people I associate with, permissions merging these servers into a single v-server so that a group from one have no influence on another would be a nightmare.
    I agree with you entirely. I especially cannot endorse the downgrading of existing licenses. If you look at TS2, they simply stopped giving away NPLs (I know that TS2 and TS3 NPL terms are not comparable).

    For me, YaTQA has always been my “Thank you” for the existence of the NPL and its generous limits. Since the announcement, I no longer consider the NPL limits (and downgrading the licenses of long-time users) worth another three-year/thousand-hour thank you. So that's basically it for the development on the free version of YaTQA. That’s not a hasty reaction from my side, I’ve made this decision years ago, now I'm just being consistent.
    Additionally, I will stop my technical support activity on this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Screech View Post
    You want a way to crack down on piracy? Use the news ticker to get users to police the servers they are renting/using and report them themselves. Most people don't know how to know if the server they are using is pirated. Have a link in the news ticker to a page about "How to Determine if Your Server is Legal". Cover checking slot count / license type, if "No license" and more than 32 slots, illegal. If NPL and more than 512, illegal. If NPL and they are paying or asked to pay anything, illegal. If their server appears to be illegal instruct them on how to report the server address to you for review. Some users on those server will realize the server they are using is illegal and they didn't even know it.
    This is a good idea, but as far as I get that announcement, they do not want to deal with piracy anymore. That's obviously the reason why piracy inquiries take months to be processed. However, I expect that instead of abusing the NPL, people will start using hacked servers/licenses instead. I find this “don't want to deal with piracy” attitude and motivation for the change not really satisfying, neither for ATHPs nor for long-time honest users of the NPL.

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    Also, since this post was moved from where it was and the post by the user with the link to the news headline removed I guess. Here is a link to the news about the NPL and AAL changes since it still does not have its own post from TeamSpeak team in the announcements area: http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=newsa...ident=20140604

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    Hello !

    I have 1024 slots AAL and i looked into price list again. Where is information about discount for regular payment clients ? now i don't see this information, so teamspeak change word and now, no one will get 20% off for AAL ?? Please replay ASAP.

    Best Regards
    Mateusz Gladosz

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    From pricing page:
    Annual Activation Licenses require annual renewal at the prices shown above.
    I would think they are doing away with 20% off. Hoping this discount is also grandfathered, like 5 or 10 v-server AALs, though I don't see where that was clarified.

    Note that existing AAL licensees who obtained their license prior to this policy change will be grandfathered into the old license structure and may continue to renew as they have before.
    Hoping that "old license structure" part also refers to pricing.

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    2 vServers ?? .. thats not how you fight piracy ..

    make it domain and/or IP bound make a report system with client side vitrification or w/e ..
    you're taking UBISOFT (uplay and always online) route by making more restrictions which will only effect the legit users ...

    pirates will always find a way to keep servers up and abuse the system legit users are the only losers here ...
    is it hard for a pirate to emulate your accounting/license system and just crack the whole system?

    what should we do with our 5 vServers now ? which gets 0 profit since its all friendly gaming clans and family servers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screech View Post
    Cover checking slot count / license type, if "No license" and more than 32 slots, illegal. If NPL and more than 512, illegal. If NPL and they are paying or asked to pay anything, illegal. If their server appears to be illegal instruct them on how to report the server address to you for review. Some users on those server will realize the server they are using is illegal and they didn't even know it. Stop blacklist evasion by editing data on client systems, have TS3 client review the address it gets for the blacklist server and if it looks really wrong (you would know) have the client reject connecting to any server.
    Thats all fine and well, except when you know that there are people running "seemingly" licensed servers that are in fact pirated. They exist, I have seen them. "Licensed" servers with 12345678 slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morthawt View Post
    Thats all fine and well, except when you know that there are people running "seemingly" licensed servers that are in fact pirated. They exist, I have seen them. "Licensed" servers with 12345678 slots.
    I know there are as you say pirated servers that have not been blacklisted yet. I think the best way to fight them is to educate the users of the software about determining if the server they are using is pirated and how to report it if they suspect it is. Then the piracy team doesn't have to hunt so much and just review the reports, some will be false reports, but those should be easy to see and move on from quickly.

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    Was that change actually done? I was looking forward to the outcry, but I didn't see any.

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    Only if your/the NPL was renewed after Dec 6th.

    All NPL renewals after December 6, 2014 will be issued a 2 server/512 slot license.
    When sending me private messages: Please make sure to include reference link to your forum thread or post.

    TeamSpeak FAQ || What should i report, when i open a client thread?

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    I know that that was annouced, I just doubt it was actually done.

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    NPL with 10 servers again?

    Hey, my licence just got renewed, and.. I now have 10 servers instead of 2. (lol?) I'm not complaining, but thats somehow weird.. xD
    And my friend, who's had an old 10-server license also got renewed.. he still has 10 servers. Did you change your policy about NPL's again Teamspeak?
    Well, that would be great
    Last edited by dante696; February 11th, 2015 at 10:03 AM. Reason: merged

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    NPL rules changed after 6 Years?

    hello i got an NPL 6 Years now

    before it had rights to use 10 Virtual Servers with 512slots together

    now i got an email that i violate the NPL Eula without even before getting informed that it got Change or will be changed to Just 2 Virtual Servers and 512 slots Instead 10 virtual Servers with max 512 slots over all off them together

    cause i got different Development Branch teams i was just shocked when i got that email on 1st April i thought its an April joke and now i find out this crazy changes

    Iam just shocked about old members and Users now get handled here

    greetz emparor
    Last edited by dante696; April 4th, 2016 at 08:04 AM. Reason: already happened in 2014

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    Old thread but i had the old NPL back in 2012 - 2013 and my license got renewed to the 2 server 512 slot thing when i always had 10 servers and 512 slots.

    Shouldn't i have been honored the same license as before like grandfather rights?

    Regards.

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    Yes it should, but we on forum can not say what has happened.

    Please contact [email protected] for a solution.
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